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Baker wants Israel excluded from regional conference
Insight Magazine ^ | December 5, 2006

Posted on 12/06/2006 12:43:40 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

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To: Red6
"I think I will have a meeting with my wife tonight and the two of us will decide what we do with your house. Does that make sense to you?"

It would make perfect sense to a socialist. Which makes this all the more weird.

101 posted on 12/06/2006 1:39:33 PM PST by Sam Cree (don't mix alcopops and ufo's - absolute reality)
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To: oceanview

Very true. But the Administration should have distanced itself from it and condemned it as soon as it became public.


102 posted on 12/06/2006 1:39:43 PM PST by stockstrader ("Where government advances--and it advances relentlessly--freedom is imperiled"-Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: hipaatwo
Troops in Iraq I understand. The Iraqis need help.

Israel doesn't need help, particularly to defend themselves against Syria. There's no reason to send American troops to Israel. Except to act as a buffer protecting Syria against Israeli retaliation against shelling from the Golan.

103 posted on 12/06/2006 1:39:54 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: Lijahsbubbe

This is pure garbage. I'm sick about it.


104 posted on 12/06/2006 1:40:43 PM PST by hipaatwo
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To: Cicero
But it is also a genuinely conservative issue not to behave with weakness toward our announced enemies. Especially not the Arabs, who are extremely quick to exploit weakness. It's their main game.

Is that ever true. We make the mistake of permitting an enemy to underestimate our will. Not for the first time either.

105 posted on 12/06/2006 1:40:54 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: processing please hold
How can you be so sure? In my worst nightmare I would have never dreamed that baker would suggest that Israel give up the Golan Heights to appease her enemies.

Israel won't let herself get sold down the river. And American support for Israel is broad based. And not represented by James Baker.

106 posted on 12/06/2006 1:42:21 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: SJackson

But Baker also wants the right of return? My friend has deul citizenship and thinks none of this will really happen, but he's a lib and I think he's a fool. And yes, he voted Dem.


107 posted on 12/06/2006 1:42:26 PM PST by hipaatwo
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To: SJackson

The only purpose for American troop as a buffer is to die, allegedly giving a reason for the US to enter the conflict.

Howver, given our current level of craveness, I doubt that any level of murder will cause an appropriate response.

And the Israelis would be FOOLS to trust us.


108 posted on 12/06/2006 1:42:33 PM PST by Little Ray
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To: dfwgator
Baker has held a negative opinion of Israel for a long time.

“Every time I have gone to Israel in connection with the peace process on each of my trips I have been met with the announcement of new settlement activity. This does violate United States policy. It is the first thing that Arabs--Arab governments—the first thing that Palestinians in the territories—whose situation is really quite desperate—the first thing they raise when we talk to them. I don’t think there is any greater obstacle to peace than settlement activity that continues not only unabated but at an advanced pace."

U.S. Secretary of State James Baker – May 22, 1991

It's seems it always the Israelis fault to James Baker.

It doesn't matter how many Qassam rockets are fired at Israel. How many time Israeli sovereignty is violated by the likes of Hezbollah or Hamas. How many murders the Palestinians commit. It's the Israeli's fault, so sayeth James Baker.

I'm disgusted.

109 posted on 12/06/2006 1:43:13 PM PST by A message (We who care, Can Not Fail)
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To: RaceBannon
(Gen 12:3 KJV) And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Baker will get the U.S. Judged, he needs to be silenced immdiately.

That's the way I see it as well.

110 posted on 12/06/2006 1:43:32 PM PST by processing please hold
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To: Sam Cree

we had a strategy - it didn't work. we gave iraq a democracy and thought they were going to be able to ramp up the institutions needed to sustain it in a 12-18 month time period, especially regarding security.

it didn't work out. now, we are in the "re-plan" phase, and that re-plan may take many forms.


111 posted on 12/06/2006 1:44:31 PM PST by oceanview
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To: hipaatwo
But Baker also wants the right of return?

I presume so, but there's no leverage there. Bakers idea of a conference without Israel to avoid Jewish influence won't happen. Hopefully the discussion is limited to a few articles and the internet.

112 posted on 12/06/2006 1:44:54 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: Red6
Is it just me, or does this sound COMPLETELY asinine?

It's more than asinine because they'll come out of the conference with a new Road Map and a laundry list of action items Israel will have to take to mollify the pals.

Memo to Washington: Blackmail never ends.

113 posted on 12/06/2006 1:45:12 PM PST by ichabod1 (After the attacks of 9/11, profiling Muslims is more like profiling the Klan.)
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To: stockstrader

has there been a statement yet from the administration regarding the Israel, in the context of this report?


114 posted on 12/06/2006 1:46:03 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Little Ray
The only purpose for American troop as a buffer is to die, allegedly giving a reason for the US to enter the conflict....Howver, given our current level of craveness, I doubt that any level of murder will cause an appropriate response....And the Israelis would be FOOLS to trust us.

Israel would have little problem in a confrontation with Syria (and Greater Syria, aka Lebanon). There'd be no reason for US participation. The role would be the same as UNIFIL in Lebanon, potentially to stand in the way of an Israeli advance. Note the proposal would require Syrian approval, which means approval of the mission as well.

115 posted on 12/06/2006 1:49:58 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: SJackson
Israel won't let herself get sold down the river.

With Olmert in the lead? He had his chance to hand hezbollah their ass on a platter not too long and didn't do it.

And American support for Israel is broad based. And not represented by James Baker.

For Israel's survival and our nation's soul, I pray you're right.

116 posted on 12/06/2006 1:50:18 PM PST by processing please hold
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To: SJackson
re: And American support for Israel is broad based)))

This is a trial balloon, to gauge just how broad and how deep is support for Israel in the US. Many eyes will be watching.

117 posted on 12/06/2006 1:50:42 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: West Coast Conservative

James Baker: A throwback to the Nazi and Communist he is totally anti-American and his Iraq Committee should be called Surrender Monkeys and anti-American SCUM.


118 posted on 12/06/2006 1:51:43 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: Constantine XIII
James Baker Center for Public Policy

What the heck? They already built one at Rice what does he need one at UT for? And I thought the Johnson Library was all about that.

119 posted on 12/06/2006 1:52:42 PM PST by ichabod1 (After the attacks of 9/11, profiling Muslims is more like profiling the Klan.)
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To: processing please hold
With Olmert in the lead? He had his chance to hand hezbollah their ass on a platter not too long and didn't do it.

True, but Olmert is Israel's problem, so I'd view it as their choice, rather than being "sold down the river".

120 posted on 12/06/2006 1:53:16 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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