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Proposed toll road could drive away truckers
Waco Tribune-Herald ^ | December 4, 2006 | Mike Anderson

Posted on 12/05/2006 9:01:33 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: 100-Fold_Return
If the sheep people don't start whining a rather huge ripoff will sneak in.

If you think the whining sheeple will have any effect on whether or not this crony-capitalist monstrosity gets built, you haven't been paying attention. Gov. Goodhair, (RINO) is going to make sure this thing gets done no matter what else get accomplished or negleglected during his next term.

Texas is a one-party state. Anywhere you see that, you get corruption writ large.

21 posted on 12/05/2006 10:22:12 AM PST by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Never underestimate the power of the state. If it is important to force trucks onto the tool road, the state might pass weight limits on logical parallel roads.
22 posted on 12/05/2006 10:22:21 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

( PA. 'pike 17.7 cents/mi )

That's just till Fast Eddie sells it and pockets the money.


23 posted on 12/05/2006 10:29:23 AM PST by sidegunner
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Some will never use a toll road
Some will always use a toll road
Most, based on various criteria, will use a toll road when it benefits them
24 posted on 12/05/2006 10:29:39 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: zeugma
if ur a tejan, whine to your elected officials:emails, phone calls, letters. calling me and others names on a website might not help.

FWIW, it's the Lt. Gov., not the Gov. in tejas that rules from his throne.

25 posted on 12/05/2006 10:32:54 AM PST by 100-Fold_Return (I'll Never Be Broke Another Day in My Life!)
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To: narby
Because Texas will make certian that free highways are not passable. Simply ending maintenance should do it.

LOL Politicians in Texas can't be that stupid. Can they?

26 posted on 12/05/2006 10:33:04 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
A toll road makes sense for a short distance where its profitable but more than a couple of miles defeats the purpose of maintaining it. Why go toll when you go for free?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

27 posted on 12/05/2006 10:34:12 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Ben Ficklin

i drive a truck and asked my boss about this
, his words say it all

"aint no damn way"

and on the other question if that couple is only turning 1500.00 before expenses (or after for that matter) they need to sell that beast and go back to company driving i make close to that weekly (before uncle sugar gets his cut of course)


28 posted on 12/05/2006 10:41:30 AM PST by jneesy
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hopefully, Gov. Good Hair and those who think the TTC is a good thing will get the hint - NOBODY wants or supports this white elephant!!

This is one baby that can be thrown out with the bathwater!!!


29 posted on 12/05/2006 10:50:19 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: NVDave

I don't see how these people can live on $1500/mo before truck costs.


30 posted on 12/05/2006 10:59:19 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Kenton

The only way I see even the fleets paying this outlandish level of toll is if they could get certain loads across Texas faster.

Are they looking at higher speed limits on this road? Most probably not.

So there's the answer right there: increased costs for not much increase in time savings means truckers won't use it unless the alternative roads are absolutely clogged.

Truckers will use an alternate route that costs them money if it does one of two things:

1. Allows them more miles per logbook hour.
2. Avoid scales or inspection points, which also costs them time (and hassle).

Unlike folks just motoring along in their cars, truckers have limits on how many hours per day they can be driving, how many hours they have to spend off the road, etc. Their job is to move the load the maximum number of miles in those 10 hours they can drive per day.


31 posted on 12/05/2006 11:01:42 AM PST by NVDave
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“With the cost of gas lately, there’s not much left over for us.”

Well, that's their problem. They need to trade that gas guzzler in for a diesel.

32 posted on 12/05/2006 11:08:36 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: stuartcr

Neither do I, unless the truck ain't moving much.

There are some long-haul truckers who have very little in the way of home expenses -- they literally live most all their life on the road, so some have only a PO box and voter registration in some state of their choosing.

Most of these folks are young, single and male, tho, and probably not owner/operators.

For a young man that is willing to work and watch his expenses, trucking, especially as half of a team, is a good way to make good money. "Team" drivers (where there is one guy driving and the other guy in the sleeper), can keep a truck moving 24/7 and they get paid a premium because the load doesn't stop. Once a guy has three years, a clean record and gets a hazmat endorsement, he can start to make even more money. Thanks to Sen. Chuck "Cereal Killer" Schumer, the number of things considered "hazardous materials" in a truckload has gone through the roof, and you need a hazmat endorsement to your CDL to haul this stuff.

Want to hear something outlandish?

Wet hay (as in, you were hauling hay and it decided to rain) is now considered "hazardous material."


33 posted on 12/05/2006 11:09:00 AM PST by NVDave
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To: 1rudeboy; narby
"Because Texas will make certian that free highways are not passable. Simply ending maintenance should do it."

"LOL Politicians in Texas can't be that stupid. Can they?"

If I recall correctly, the toll road operators sued California to keep them from doing maintenance on any free highways that might compete with the toll roads. I think they won. Cintra is not our friend, and neither is Gov RINO.
34 posted on 12/05/2006 11:24:15 AM PST by Brucifer (JF'n Kerry- "That's not just a paper cut, it's a Purple Heart!")
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To: 100-Fold_Return
I don't believe I called anyone on this thread any names unless you or some others are benefiting from the crony-capitalism that is the TTC.

About the LTG, under normal circumstances, you would be right. However, Gov. Goodhair is running the show on this one, as it needs no more legislooter approval from what I understand. It's just going to be pushed right on through, despite the overwhelming opposition reported at every meeting they've had across the state that allowed 'citizen' input.  What we think doesn't matter. The powers that be want it, so it is going to happen. I hope I'm wrong about that, but I seriously doubt it.

35 posted on 12/05/2006 11:25:36 AM PST by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
According to the Texas Department of Transportation, passenger vehicles could pay 15.2 cents per mile and truck drivers 58.5 cents per mile to drive on the 370-mile corridor.

Is this a joke? What kind of stupid moron thinks someone is actually going to pay that much?????

Whoever came up with this is a complete idiot.
36 posted on 12/05/2006 11:28:54 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: jneesy
I find that 15 hun/month hard to believe.

Plus, tolls are tax deductible, so the actual toll cost will be reduced. Plus, the tolls will prevent the fuel tax/price of fuel from rising as much.

37 posted on 12/05/2006 11:34:18 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: NVDave
Are they looking at higher speed limits on this road? Most probably not.

The TTC planners are looking at speeds up to 85 miles/hour.

38 posted on 12/05/2006 11:35:38 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Well, that's their problem. They need to trade that gas guzzler in for a diesel.

Well, not this model year. The new ultra-low sulfur regulation on diesel in this country has apparently made it impossible to sell 2007 diesel cars in this country.

39 posted on 12/05/2006 11:37:18 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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To: NVDave
Wet hay (as in, you were hauling hay and it decided to rain) is now considered "hazardous material."

WHAAAAAAAA??? Because of fungal spores, perhaps?

40 posted on 12/05/2006 11:38:51 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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