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Live Thread - Hearing on Robert Gates as Sec. of Defense
Cspan ^ | Dec 4, 2006

Posted on 12/05/2006 6:50:29 AM PST by Mo1

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To: Mo1
Warner thinks they will go in close session around 4:30 .. then vote out of committee after that

Gates could have a vote on the floor by tomorrow
241 posted on 12/05/2006 10:10:44 AM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: Mo1

Warner: This was the best hearing I've seen in 28 years


242 posted on 12/05/2006 10:12:03 AM PST by meg88
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To: meg88

Leven calling Gates a breath of fresh air

I want to know why their are being so nice to Gates .. (except Hellary & Bayh) ... their base was freaking out when he was picked


243 posted on 12/05/2006 10:14:18 AM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: meg88

OMG .. Warner says this will send a strong message to the terrorists

rolling eyes


244 posted on 12/05/2006 10:16:30 AM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: Mo1

I think it does send a message that we can learn from our mistakes and reorganize.

I think it is a very strong message.

I get from Gates that he is worried about Iran and wants a strong Iraq around to help tackel Iran.


245 posted on 12/05/2006 10:22:35 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Welcome Home, son! You and your comrades are our heroes!))
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To: txrangerette

Great post, TX!!!

I saw the post hearing comments of Levin...and I gotta say..that unless Gates DOES sign on to a troop withdrawal in the near future...he isn't going to be much more successful than Rummy at getting any "concensus"...

However, if they confirm him...and they start their same old whining...they have to OWN their own responsibility.


246 posted on 12/05/2006 10:27:05 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: Mo1
LOL, very predictably talking point.

The Dems take over and everything will be fine and dandy, and the "reporting" will change drastically.

Drastically.
247 posted on 12/05/2006 10:28:55 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: bnelson44
I get from Gates that he is worried about Iran and wants a strong Iraq around to help tackel Iran.

What about Syria?

248 posted on 12/05/2006 10:30:48 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: bnelson44

I sure didn't get what you did out of Gates...I heard someone that said he hadn't spent time in Iraq...and almost everyone that asked a question of him....got an answer that HE said he READ IN THE NEWSPAPER!!

C'mon...do we really want a DOD during this tenuous time to get his knowledge of world conditions from the MSM????


I sure don't.


249 posted on 12/05/2006 10:33:46 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: Mo1; Bahbah

Mo1...thanks so much for your posts telling what was going on...Tuesday is one of my days for lunch with kaybugs..

I also have to pick her up from school today during this afternoon session...so I hope you post any good stuff then also.

I missed Hillary...but, when I got in the car, Rush's show was coming on..and he said he had gotten a lot of e-mails complaining about Warner's statements about how he wants Bush to work with the NEW Congress...blah, blah.

It was Rush's opinion that Warner is being clever in trying to put more of the responisibility on the Dems...but, I got home in time to see Warner and Levin's after hearing interviews...

and I have to say...I think Warner is NOT that clever. He really wants Pres. Bush to go with the ISG + the NEW dem Congress...ugh

and Levin was practically doing cartwheels, and basically saying that what HE heard was the Gates WOULD be bringing the troops home...(dems always hear what they want to hear).

Thanks again Mo...for all of your help today.


250 posted on 12/05/2006 10:40:21 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: Txsleuth

hehe, I think he will get briefed if confirmed.


251 posted on 12/05/2006 10:43:22 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Welcome Home, son! You and your comrades are our heroes!))
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To: maica
http://www.grd.usace.army.mil/news/releases/20061127.pdf

This link goes to a website -scroll down to page 7 - which itemizes the many projects completed (more that 2600) and underway (more than 600) in Iraq. Its map should complement Dio's map of Iran, because it shows Lots of little green dots signifying "DOD projects" all along the Iraq-Iran border plus some along the Syria and Jordan borders. Since it is .pdf format, I do not know how to reproduce the map here, but I hope someone will do it.
Great source, thanks for the link.

On the down side, look at the table that lists Infrastructure status. It says that the electricity in all of Iraq is only on for 10-12 hours a day on average. In Baghdad it's only on for greater than 7 hours a day on average.

Iraq is producing 2.2 MBPD of oil currently with a capacity of 2.5 MBPD. Their goal is to get to 3 MBPD. That compares with with 2.5 MBPD of prewar oil production.

Neither of these sound good. The average temperature in July and August is greater than 120F. I'm pretty sure I'd be cranky if the AC only ran half the day in 120F heat. And only matching prewar oil production levels this long after the invasion is not a good sign.

No matter the reason neither of these important figures make it sound like we're winning the war. I think Gates is right to admit we're losing the war. We'll never find a winning strategy in Iraq if all we're going to do is defend the current policy.
252 posted on 12/05/2006 10:45:49 AM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: bnelson44

Oh...yeah, be snide.

I know that BUT I also know that since he was a member of the ISG...and has known for a while now that he was the DOD nominee...

I would have expected him to do MORE than read a damn newspaper to find out what is going on in N. Korea, Afghanistan, China.....I am sure he only reads the NYT and WaPo..


253 posted on 12/05/2006 10:45:58 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: Txsleuth
C'mon...do we really want a DOD during this tenuous time to get his knowledge of world conditions from the MSM????

Gates is an old CIA guy who rose through the ranks before being appointed CIA head by Bush Sr Gates was originally nominated by Reagan in '87 for the same post but he withdrew his name because of so-called Iran Contra.

Two points: 1)Gates knows how to get "knowledge of world conditions", above and beyond the MSM. 2)Gates knows how to get by a committee made up of rabid Democrats.

254 posted on 12/05/2006 10:46:21 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign; Txsleuth

Also note these were OPEN sessions. If he knows classified info, he is best not to let the world know what he knows in an open session.


255 posted on 12/05/2006 10:50:47 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Welcome Home, son! You and your comrades are our heroes!))
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To: FreeReign; bnelson44

So...he was only answering those questions by saying he "read about that in the newspaper, and other than that, I don't know"...

because he is pretending not know???

Oh..okay.


256 posted on 12/05/2006 10:53:23 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: bnelson44
Also note these were OPEN sessions. If he knows classified info, he is best not to let the world know what he knows in an open session.

Yes.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, Gates' answers on Iran and Syria simply echo the position of his boss the CIC.

257 posted on 12/05/2006 10:53:45 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Txsleuth

Actually, I think he answered that way to irritate you ;-)


258 posted on 12/05/2006 10:56:33 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Welcome Home, son! You and your comrades are our heroes!))
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To: Mo1
"FAX TO THE HEARING ON GATES FOR SOD

Dear Chairman:
I absolutely assure you that no one in America is as patriotic as,
or as intelligent as, or as beautiful as, or as caring as, Senator Hillary Clinton.
I know this for a fact. Furthermore,
I have taken a survey where I 'live' and all agree with me. It was unanimous.
Sincerely, Vince "


259 posted on 12/05/2006 11:01:46 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Txsleuth
Gates is an old CIA guy who rose through the ranks before being appointed CIA head by Bush Sr Gates was originally nominated by Reagan in '87 for the same post but he withdrew his name because of so-called Iran Contra... Gates knows how to get "knowledge of world conditions", above and beyond the MSM

I heard someone that said he hadn't spent time in Iraq...and almost everyone that asked a question of him....got an answer that HE said he READ IN THE NEWSPAPER!!

Well, I don't know your sources and I don't know exactly what Gates said about that, but he has been out of government and out of the CIA for a while.

Should have answered those questions by saying that he READ IT ON FREEREPUBLIC?

260 posted on 12/05/2006 11:02:22 AM PST by FreeReign
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