Posted on 11/29/2006 7:30:19 AM PST by ElkGroveDan
pings please
Saricino is one of the smartest political operatives in the state of soon to be !!!Mexifornia!!! (also just ruthless and clever enough to help serious conservatives to win in spite of the shallow and weightless moderates and liberals)
a TWirP.. a Progressive Third Way kind of guy or stooge perhaps ,, locking in the gains of the left's many years of "accomplishments" and pushing for even more of their agenda incrementally, nothing more than a fake republican. But as long as you don't raise taxes or pretend you are against gay marriages by using vetoes of convenience to continue the ruse, voters could care less, well, some anyway.
Maria and the left's sock puppet.
Sock it to me for 4 more years? No thanks.
You're going to break your pinging bell ;o)
He's trying to become Senator Swartzensocialistenegger
Totally fair comment about a hugely disappointing politician.
Nice analysis.
Arnold's about Arnold. He really doesn't have a political ideology, and if there was ever a Republican In Name Only, it's Arnold.
Ahhnuld's numbers over the last two years have stabilized, not because he was Republican enough, but because he pulled a Klinton and triangulated the DemocRATs on their own issues. It is obvious, that in his estimation, he needs the Hispanics, the middle, and enough of the left to keep the gravy train rolling. He co-opts the leftist issues such as health care, illegal aliens, tax increases, and education from the DemocRATs by declaring loudly he is going to do something about them: ie "We need a conprehensive plan to deal with the illegal problem", "I am going to cover the state's uninsured, "I didn't raise taxes.
I am not sure that he was always a RINO, but he learned the Sacramento game fast and is playing hard.
Key, and only, real thing to know about The Foreigner.
First of all, I didn't write it, Bill Saracino did. Second, California voters haven't changed their minds on anything. The so-called waffling middle who change their minds back and forth is a myth. They don't exist.
What changes political trends is who decides to vote. About half of all eligible voters don't register, and half of all registered voters don't vote. That creates a huge chunk of voters who, if they decided to participate, if something motivates them to get off their rears, then THEY are the ones who change things. They can be Republicans or registered Democrats, conservatives or liberals.
What has killed us in California has been the steady suppression of the occasional conservative voters. What will change it all overnight is a popular issue or candidate who will fire up a badly dispirited conservative base. The Recall sort-of did that -- 2/3 of Californians said NO to mainstream Democrat policies -- but then Arnold smothered the enthusiasm by trying to turn the movement into his own personality cult.
Arnold's recent success has nothing to do with traditional partisan allegiances or liberal vs. conservative thought. Arnold won because of his charisma, Hollywood glitz and wealth were paired against with the worst candidate imaginable in modern California history. Period.
Hay Arnoiled! Don't be tryin ta hock us Cauleeforneeun's underwear/briefs, too!!! (snart!)
About half of all eligible voters don't register, and half of all registered voters don't vote.
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But I thought it was demographics? We have to catch the wave that is offered. ;-)
Q factor killed the shining conservative star that even quite a few here still consider nothing more than an also ran, in both the Recall and the general election, while applauding what he has been consistently saying for years. That is the real irony.
Cultism, much as Progressivism, in the end, delivers little of much long term value and only seeks to restrict thought and advancements that can legitimately work to lift everyone, and not just its adherents and most vocal proponents aka special interests.
"It may be rice wine to you, but it's sake to me!"
(Goldie Hawn on Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In)
My apologies for not checking the link to see.
The so-called waffling middle who change their minds back and forth is a myth. They don't exist.
I didn't say they waffled, I meant that the middle wouldn't vote for a true conservative. They haven't voted for a true conservative in a statewide election in California in a long time.
What will change it all overnight is a popular issue or candidate who will fire up a badly dispirited conservative base. The Recall sort-of did that -- 2/3 of Californians said NO to mainstream Democrat policies --
No, what changed things were car registration fees and Arnuld's promise to reduce them. When he tried to impliment the rest of his agenda, his support dried up. He reinvented himself to win office.
What has killed us in Kalifornia is the steady growth of the DemocRAT base and the gerrymandering of districts ensure that they win their districts in virtually every election.
If the conservatives were so "rousable" as you state, than why weren't conseratives able to elect their hero Tom McClintock? Why weren't we able to get rid of David Dreier? Why weren't we able to elect Simons, or Lungren? Was it all because no one roused the Conservative base? Was Pete Wilson a conservative? - Hardly. According to your calculation, this beat down of conservatives must have started the day that Dukemagian left office.
I am sick and tired of Republicans not facing reality. The reality is that the state's population has changed radically over the last 20 years and not for the better. You aint gonna find another Ronald Reagan to win in this state for a long time to come. McClintock might have won the recall because people hated Gray Davis so much-, but not necessarily the next election. He couldn't even win the Luetenant Governorship.
Yes, Arnuld won on his star power. That's what we are left. The fix is in, deal with it.
Thanks for the ping!
Exactly. Reagan's California in 1980 was heavily populated with retired WWII veterans...now those folks have mostly died off.
When you learn to spell their names I will discuss them with you.
Have a nice day.
Since you have Internet access, I find it amazing that you STILL can't get their names right.
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