1 posted on
11/28/2006 8:05:58 AM PST by
meg88
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To: meg88
This is what I was afraid of -- having lost the chance to actually affect the immigration bill with the House passing to Dim-RAT control, Tom has now chosen the path of demagogery.
This ensures that the pro-enforcement side is irreparably bound up in people's minds as some sort of frothing racist position, which *shouldn't* happen but will if this sort of thing keeps up.
Unfortunately, I predict a bill to be passed and signed in '07 that will make us wistful for the Bush-style plan; and I expect that when it happens it will be backed with popular support, because the side that's actually *right* will have demagogued itself into the margins.
This will do wonders for Tom personally; he can be a 'firebrand' and sell books and get re-elected, but it'll also mean the ->cause<- of stopping illegal immigration will fail.
First rule of politics: the losing side determines nothing. We don't want to be like the Dims who will say anything to win, and we don't have to, because our ideas are right -- but we won't win by emulating a Dean scream, either.
41 posted on
11/28/2006 8:52:31 AM PST by
No.6
(www.fourthfightergroup.com)
To: meg88
Being a resident of Miami, I can see how an outsider can view Miami as a third world. I headquarter our Latin American group from Miami and travel weekly to South and Central America. THESE PLACES ARE THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES.
Just like we have changed the meaning of poverty and poor in this country we have changed the meaning of regional conditions.
Being a native of Southern California, I have found Miami to be so much more dynamic and vibrant. It is much more libertarian than Victorian California.
46 posted on
11/28/2006 8:56:39 AM PST by
GWB00
(Barbara Streisand barely made it out of high school.)
To: meg88
This guy is not ready for prime time. I doubt he could win a statewide race in Colorado. This shows he darn sure couldn't win a nationwide race - Republicans don't win these days without Florida.
To: meg88
Did the paper have a cow when Charlie Rangel insulted Mississippi?
Just curious.
57 posted on
11/28/2006 9:14:43 AM PST by
mewzilla
(Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
To: meg88
What percentage of real estate property in Miami can be classified as shantytown?
60 posted on
11/28/2006 9:16:37 AM PST by
RightWhale
(RTRA DLQS GSCW)
To: meg88
Damnit Tancredo. There's the right way and the wrong way.
To: meg88
There goes Tom, once again noticing the 800 lb gorilla in the room. He should know by now mentioning it is not considered
de rigour.
A real presidential contender would avert his eyes & mumble some inane platitude about 'diversity's rich tapestry'.
66 posted on
11/28/2006 9:21:37 AM PST by
skeeter
To: meg88
Pretty much any WalMart in Florida is its own third-world country.
67 posted on
11/28/2006 9:22:55 AM PST by
subterfuge
(Tolerance has become the greatest virtue, and hypocrisy the worst character defect.)
To: meg88
Tancredo is absolutely right. At least somebody dares to speak out.
75 posted on
11/28/2006 9:31:09 AM PST by
Dante3
To: meg88
Just out of curiosity...has he ever been to any actual third world countries?
To: meg88; All
Tom Tancredo (Moron-Colorado)
...has shown his meager intellectual ass in this blindingly stupid comment about Miami (Fl) being a third world country.
Without doubt there are specific areas of Greater Miami that can be very much improved visually and physically, but overall the many municipalities that make up the Greater Miami/Ft.Lauderdale/West Palm beach are economically stable, look and function well, are vibrant, well cared for (again excluding specific problem areas that have continually and perennially defied renovating or renewal)and an example of what a tropical, healthy economy and tri lingual community should look and sound like.
Yes, it is crowded and the traffic sucks. That appears to be in every city everywhere. there are slums. Yes. That seems to be in every large city everywhere. There are signs in English, Spanish, Creole, and some languages I cannot place, but it works without any noteworthy problems, excepting those who want to be in an imaginary place of their own dreams.
High Crime? Sure. Like EVERY major city anywhere.
Rude? No question. Those folks are easily recognized by their accents.
That is because of the large number of rude people who have migrated here. Not from another country, but rather the Northeast (New York, Boston, New Jersey, and elsewhere) who have brought their rudeness and generally uncivil manners(that which exist)with them.
It was nicer 50 years ago, but time does not stand still.
This is the place for kakhis, a Guayabera, or jeans & pullover.
Tancredo is so far off the mark that he would miss the best parts of the Miami area if he did stay a while.
85 posted on
11/28/2006 9:41:28 AM PST by
Gideon Reader
("The quiet gentleman sitting in the corner sipping Kenya AA and enjoying his Stan Getz CD's".)
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To: meg88
actually he has it pretty spot on.
There are parts where it is literally like the third world.
About 10 years ago they had to agressivly enforce taxi solicitation laws at cruise line terminals because the recent immigrant cabbies were basically chasing down potential fairs like they did in the old country.
Certain shopping strip malls have signage that is directly parallel with the low end third world nations. Miami is definitly schizophrenic.
You have the super nice with the super slums next to each other.
Consider the level of police presence which is required during basketball games. The police are there to keep people from making a fatal wrong turn.
105 posted on
11/28/2006 10:11:32 AM PST by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: meg88
Now appearing; Tancredo, and the not ready for prime-time handlers.
115 posted on
11/28/2006 10:39:07 AM PST by
FFIGHTER
(Character Matters!)
To: meg88
He would have said the same thing if he'd been in N.Y.C. in 1900, with the Italian, Irish and Jewish neighborhoods.
Welcome to the Five Points, Tom........... (what a hump.)
To: All
Help!
Representative Tim Tancordo,(Rop-Coloradio)
We is stok hair in My-am-mee.
We dint larn no good ingleesh en skooool
lak youse dud, and we gods to liv hair.
halp uz pleeeez.
133 posted on
11/28/2006 11:28:52 AM PST by
Gideon Reader
("The quiet gentleman sitting in the corner sipping Kenya AA and enjoying his Stan Getz CD's".)
To: meg88
What a dumb thing to say.
To: meg88
Queue the "Queen" music:
"Bump, bump, bump, another one bites the dust!"
To: meg88
When I was young (late 80's) we lived for awhile in South Africa. My grandmother was worried about us and I remember my dad would always tell her that SA was safer than Miami which was having riots and store burnings that year.
148 posted on
11/28/2006 12:01:21 PM PST by
TWfromTEXAS
(We are at war - Man up or Shut up.)
To: meg88
Jeeze what an idiot! He just screwed up his presidential run before it even started!
151 posted on
11/28/2006 12:10:29 PM PST by
areafiftyone
(Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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