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Posted on 11/28/2006 6:12:37 AM PST by pabianice
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To: Herosmith
The AF also coveted ideas and nutured innovation out of it's enlisted force. Try getting that from someone that you feed MREs to and bunk 4 to a room in swealtering temperatures.This is currently being done. In fact, many of the most innovative enlisted in the Army work under even worse conditions than you've described.
(Assuming you meant nurtured and not neutered.)
To: jblair
The Navy has great pilots. However, this landing on a postage stamp cliche is a farce.And you base your opinion that discounts the elevated difficulty and reduced margin for error in a carrier landing on what?
Farce projection? This exchange was about the comparitive merits of USN vs ASAF pilots. I was USN. I have spent time w/ pilots. Even USAF pilots admit that it is a whole different ballgame in carrier flight ops (although it could take a few beers). You don't have to like the cliche; you can't deny the the reality it alludes to.
The force projection discussion is down the hall on your right.
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posted on
11/28/2006 10:12:23 AM PST
by
70times7
(Sense... some don't make any, some don't have any - or so the former would appear to the latter.)
To: Loud Mime
I was AF stationed with the Army in Germany... I was in 7th Weather Squadron in the late 70's, providing weather support at an Army airfield. We had to live on the economy as the barracks at the kaserne where the airfield was at were substandard. Man, let me tell you how tough it was living in a farmhouse in the middle of spargel fields. My landlady, who we all called "Mama", would cook us lunch everyday and beautiful, young freuleins came to hang out at the house with us and we were forced to drink German beer and wine and go to great rock concerts... man, that was tough duty! :-)
To: Caesar Soze
I spent about six years of my AF career living in 10 man tents, eating MREs, and with no A/C. I did a 179 day tour on the coast of the North Sea during winter, followed immediately by a 179 day tour of Saudi. Both times we lived in tents and ate MREs. I also did a tour with the Marines in Yuma, AZ. It made me wish I was back with the Army.
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posted on
11/28/2006 11:33:08 AM PST
by
mbynack
(Retired USAF SMSgt)
To: Don Carlos
I'll respectfully disagree with you. I spend my summer weekends motorcycle riding with buddies who are active duty Air Force on Elmendorf here in anchorage. We have had long discussions on the topic. I can assure you it is the case in the Aircraft maintenance fields in 2006.
I agree, it is BS...But in a different way.
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posted on
11/28/2006 12:02:16 PM PST
by
SENTINEL
(USMC GWI (MY GOD IS GOD, ROCKCHUCKER !!))
To: rochester_veteran
I was in 7th WSQ also. Illesheim AAF out of Det 10. I worked Rawinsonde before that.
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posted on
11/28/2006 12:06:09 PM PST
by
Loud Mime
(Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire)
To: pabianice
I was a dogface in VN from 3/67 to 5/69. I had the chance to drive through Phan Rang air base one day and was stunned to see the air conditioned movie theater. The typical Army movie theater of that time consisted of six sheets of plywood painted white with a few benches outside the mess hall. While there, I also spotted a sign which read "Future Home of Happy Valley Dependents School." I'm sure the base civil engineers were serious about it, too.
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posted on
11/28/2006 12:31:43 PM PST
by
kilowhskey
(HEY! Senator Kerry: SMILE! You're on Candid Claymore!)
To: SENTINEL
Well, there ya go! Different times.
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posted on
11/28/2006 3:18:49 PM PST
by
Don Carlos
(Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy. (B. Franklin))
To: Loud Mime
I was in 7th WSQ also. Illesheim AAF out of Det 10. I worked Rawinsonde before that. I was at Coleman AAF, Det 11, 1976-1979. I think (that was 30 year ago man!) I did a TDY at Illesheim AAF, covering the ROS while guys from the unit were in the field for Reforger. Who knows, it may have been you I was covering for! :-) I also did a bit of Rawinsonde at Vandenberg AFB before going to Germany. Did you also do Rawinsonde School at Chanute? I had a blast in Germany, it was good duty!
To: Traditional Vet
The AF is still a tougher place to make rank. But, the other services pull stripes quickly as well.
To: Steel Wolf
The distance to various holes on the base golf course.
To: pabianice
The one thing I noticed when I enlisted in the USAF was, the door was open to everyone who cared to enter and sign up.
You have to ask yourself, do you want to spend 2 or three years doing drills, shining shoes, sleeping outdoors and on 3 inch mattresses, OR, do you want to spend 4 years of basically 9-5 work, fulltime passes, 9 inch mattresses, and some of the best chow around?
So the rank was a little slow in coming, I was single, had a place to sleep and 3 meals a day...plus...I got to be around jets and neat electronic stuff...it was fun. Besides, I get seasick, so USN was out of the question.
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posted on
11/30/2006 7:31:43 PM PST
by
FrankR
(That's my opinion...and it should be yours...)
To: pabianice
Funny how things work. I wanted to be in the military since I started college. The Vietnam War was on and they needed people. I joined Air Force ROTC. At the end of my freshman year I caught them lying to me so I quit. I then went to the surface Navy and was turned-down for eye sight. I then went to the Coast Guard and weas turned-down for eye sight. The Army was out because or chronic allergies to all trees and grasses. One day I was mooning around the student union when Naval Aviation came to the campus. A young ensign on plowback asked me if I was interested. Heck, yes, I was interested! I explained about my eyes and hay fever and he said, "Well, take the aptitude test. What have you got to lose?" I did well on the test and went for the physical. Rejected for allergies. I applied a second time. Rejected for allergies. I applied a third time. The flight surgeon wrote on my application, "Motivation +++++++++++++!" I was accepted. Twenty eight years later I retired after a fantastic career in the active and reserve navy.
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