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America, Not Keith Ellison What Book A Congressman Takes His Oath On (Dennis Prager Alert)
Townhall.com ^ | 11/28/2006 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 11/27/2006 9:43:24 PM PST by goldstategop

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The foundational document of truth our public servants are required to affirm an oath on is The Bible. This principle should not change simply because the person who wants to be sworn is a Muslim. Either that person subscribes to the American creed and to the book America as a nation holds holy or be barred from assuming office. Keith Ellison can decide between Islam and his loyalty to America. He can accept our values or forfeit his seat in Congress.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

1 posted on 11/27/2006 9:43:32 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
It should be the Bible or nothing. Substitutions should not be allowed.
2 posted on 11/27/2006 9:46:17 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (At worst the Pope's comments might cause a "war of words" but mohammedans prefer a "war over words".)
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Agreed. Either he will take his oath on The Bible or he will forfeit his seat. Every one in America has taken the same oath for over 230 years.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

3 posted on 11/27/2006 9:48:09 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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"Keith Ellison can decide between Islam and his loyalty to America."

Absolutely! Besides, the majority dictates, not the one. Betcha there is "buyers remorse" setting in already.


4 posted on 11/27/2006 9:53:00 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support the troops because they support you!)
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5 posted on 11/27/2006 9:55:54 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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lets see how much play this gets (won't) on the msm.


6 posted on 11/27/2006 9:56:01 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: goldstategop

I'd like to see this go to the Supreme Court. Jefferson and Adams, if alive today, would declare Islam unconstitutional.


7 posted on 11/27/2006 9:56:26 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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All BS aside, what is the legal basis pro and con for this?

Can an elected representative sit if he refuses the oath?


8 posted on 11/27/2006 9:56:36 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: goldstategop

bttt


9 posted on 11/27/2006 9:59:20 PM PST by Christian4Bush (Don't blame me - I didn't vote for these DEM b**tards. (redacted to satiate religioncop TXBlair))
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Is this being reported on other than Mr. Prager? I kinda doubt it. And the dumbs---s that elected this guy should all gather round when he swears his oath to Allah. Good God help us.


10 posted on 11/27/2006 9:59:34 PM PST by RacerX1128
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To: goldstategop

I believe this to be wrong. However, after reading the following the people who elected this muskie get what they asked for.

At the start of each new Congress, in January of every odd-numbered year, the entire House of Representatives and one-third of the Senate performs a solemn and festive constitutional rite that is as old as the Republic. While the oath-taking dates back to the First Congress in 1789, the current oath is a product of the 1860s, drafted by Civil War-era members of Congress intent on ensnaring traitors.

The Constitution contains an oath of office only for the president. For other officials, including members of Congress, that document specifies only that they "shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation to support this constitution." In 1789, the First Congress reworked this requirement into a simple fourteen-word oath: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the Constitution of the United States."


11 posted on 11/27/2006 10:01:48 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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I believe this to be wrong. However, after reading the following the people who elected this muskie get what they asked for.

At the start of each new Congress, in January of every odd-numbered year, the entire House of Representatives and one-third of the Senate performs a solemn and festive constitutional rite that is as old as the Republic. While the oath-taking dates back to the First Congress in 1789, the current oath is a product of the 1860s, drafted by Civil War-era members of Congress intent on ensnaring traitors.

The Constitution contains an oath of office only for the president. For other officials, including members of Congress, that document specifies only that they "shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation to support this constitution." In 1789, the First Congress reworked this requirement into a simple fourteen-word oath: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the Constitution of the United States."


12 posted on 11/27/2006 10:01:55 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: goldstategop

I believe this to be wrong. However, after reading the following the people who elected this muskie get what they asked for.

At the start of each new Congress, in January of every odd-numbered year, the entire House of Representatives and one-third of the Senate performs a solemn and festive constitutional rite that is as old as the Republic. While the oath-taking dates back to the First Congress in 1789, the current oath is a product of the 1860s, drafted by Civil War-era members of Congress intent on ensnaring traitors.

The Constitution contains an oath of office only for the president. For other officials, including members of Congress, that document specifies only that they "shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation to support this constitution." In 1789, the First Congress reworked this requirement into a simple fourteen-word oath: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the Constitution of the United States."


13 posted on 11/27/2006 10:02:00 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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"lets see how much play this gets (won't) on the msm."

It will get a passing because the multicultural club will hold it up as a victory.


14 posted on 11/27/2006 10:03:33 PM PST by oneamericanvoice
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To: goldstategop
This is historically inaccurate. According to the Architect of the House's website, Teddy Roosevelt did NOT swear on the bible when he took his oath of office after President McKinley's death in 1903 - he merely raised his hand.

And nothing in the Constitution requires a Congressman to swear on the Bible. In fact, all Article VI requires is that the Congressman take an oath OR affirmation to support the Constitution. An AFFIRMATION doesn't require swearing on the bible at all, and gives an out for those with religious objections. Although I haven't done research yet, I'd be shocked if some Congressmen haven't gone the affirmation route in the past and not taken an oath on the Bible.
15 posted on 11/27/2006 10:11:47 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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Can an elected representative sit if he refuses the oath?

Absolutely. Article VI of the Constitution only requires that a representative take an oath OR affirmation to support the Constitution. Someone who refuses the oath can affirm his support for the Constitution instead of taking an oath.
16 posted on 11/27/2006 10:14:20 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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I'll bet you my entire estate he will take that oath with a Koran.


17 posted on 11/27/2006 10:15:15 PM PST by Hildy (RUDY GUILIANI FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008)
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To: conservative in nyc
Its tradition one takes an oath on The Bible. It means you're swearing before God to the truth of your pledge to uphold your office.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

18 posted on 11/27/2006 10:16:38 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: conservative in nyc

The problem with a Muslim using the Qur'an is that the Qur'an is anti-American Constitution.


19 posted on 11/27/2006 10:17:05 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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unbeleivable! Yet sadly- we'll probably coddle to him for fear of reprisals should we force him to show some actual patriotism and pledge his allegience to the Christian nation of the U.S.- Burkas and prayer rugs for everyone can't be far behind. http://sacredscoop.com


20 posted on 11/27/2006 10:18:41 PM PST by CottShop
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