A Message to All the Cut and Run Freepers Currently Polluting Free Republic

Friday, November 24, 2006 | Kristinn

[The Old Hoosier]

Got any links? We know Saddam came after Poppy once, but I'm unaware of attacks they attempted here in the States.

[The Old Hoosier]

This was inevitable. We picked a strong point in the Middle East to fight the terrorist and the extremist Muslims come from all over the middle east to fight us. Of course Christians are going to have a hard time in the location.

I'm glad you're willing to drop the BS fiction that this was for the good of the Iraqi people. It makes the discussion a lot easier.

[melancholy]

Hey, thanks for relieving me!

I don't want to talk about the new "mom" story. :-)

[ohioWfan]

Well, I take it one step farther. His blatant New England elitist snobbery is directed against people of another race.

I think a whole lot of the "The Iraqi people are incapable of democracy" bunch feel that way because they think that we are superior by nature to Arabs.

And that goes against Biblical principles, and offends me at every level.

[Taxman]

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[bvw]

Carpet bombing *could* win. But even not that *would* win without a National Will behind it.

And if there comes a National Will to Win, carpet bombing would not be needed.

Thankfully, perhaps, Mr. Kristinn Taylor's thread opened the doors on FR to the bedazzled and unknowingly confused. For it is in those folks from which a National Will needs be forged -- that is, if it can be.

Our enemy attacks that underbelly we have, it is soft and vulnerable. Just as we can't yell our own guts to suck it in and become six-packs of hard muscle, rather than six pack-filled paucnhes, we can't yell at out nation's soft gut to make it tough.

We have to work out with it. A whole lot of exercising has to take place. No more FR the echo chamber.

[ohioWfan]

btw, I'm not 'editing' anything out of post 1820.

It was about individuals living their faith in love, and there's no reason to amend it because you misunderstood it.

[Steve Van Doorn]

”There has been all kinds of talk about an Iraq-sponsored attack on the U.S. since the Gulf War, we still haven't seen it happen.”

We do know Saddam was recruiting and training suicide and terrorist bombers to attack the US.

Unless you are saying these terrorist suicide bombers where just weapons that where never going to be used, I don’t understand your point?

[KevinDavis]

Same here.. I believe that every human deserves freedom.. No matter what the race is.. Freedom is universal...

[FreeReign]

Do you have a link for your "military statement"?

I threw all my old Fallujah bookmarks away.

Here's one I found again. Gen. Franks answers a Scarborough question about the Fallujah delay on the eve of the second attack.

11/09/2004 | Gen. Franks: I think, if you think back to a time in April when we were engaged with our Marines in Fallujah before, there was a dynamic in Iraq that had not yet taken place, and that is Prime Minister Allawi having been named. Back at that time, we were dealing with a group of 25 people who were trying to sort of fathom the future of Iraq and who should go where and what should the military work be in that country. And so there was enough uncertainty at that time that I actually believed then and I believe today that a wise decision was to cordon that city of Fallujah, pay attention to it, to let our intelligence people work, and I believe, as we see the story of Fallujah unfold today, we will see the fruits of our labors as we did that. The intelligence will, if not be perfect, it will be better. The specific objectives, the tactical objectives of those troopers on the ground, to include the Iraqis, as they go into Fallujah will be much more sound than our objectives would have been last April. And so, I thought it was the correct approach then and I believe we will see the results of that approach as we watch Fallujah unfold now.

[oceanview]

"incapable". no.

"not ready" for democracy. ABSOLUTELY. they were not ready for democracy, we gave them democracy too soon. and now, that democracy of theirs stands in the way of US forces taking the acute military action needed to clean the place out.

so all we are left with, is a speech every 6 months by abizaid where he talks about "the iraqi forces need just another few months of training to get up to speed". how many times have we heard him say that?

[MikefromOhio]

At least read on to see the situation we've put the Iraqi Christians into.

LOL....

At least now they have the freedom to leave if they so choose.

I reject your premise AND your conclusions. To argue the points you are arguing would have prevented the US from getting involved in Europe in BOTH World Wars AND probably would have started a more destructive war with the Soviets.

[rfp1234]

--Spending more time in Iraq is not worth losing more pro-life senators.--

Agreed. Nothing is worth that kind of loss. Anything is acceptable to keep the Hilldebeast out of the WH.

Thank you for the excellent posts as well. As Lincoln said, "a horse divided against itself cannot stand" [or was it house? ;-) ] Long live FR.

[Criminal Number 18F]

Cut-and-runners: You don't like what's happening in the hot spots of Iraq? How much better would you like that happening in our home towns?

Amen, Bootless. Same to Kristinn.

I do support a cut and run strategy though: cut off Muqtada al-Sadr's head, and run him over with a tank.

Then, give the tank the most thorough washing it's had in its Army career, to get the bits of jihad wannabee all off. Rinse and repeat as needed.

That's the cut and run that is called for.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[MaineVoter2002]

Because my opinion is different from yours, I'm a troll?

If you state that you support open borders, they'll stop calling you a troll

[ohioWfan]

I completely agree.

We have been blessed by being born and raised in this incredible country, but that does not make us superior as human beings.

[MaineVoter2002]

At least now they have the freedom to leave if they so choose

Actually they had the right to leave before.

[Steve Van Doorn]

"this was for the good of the Iraqi people."

Again I disagree with you. Freedom isn't free and never is easy. Christians should have an easier time living in Iraq if we some how won in Iraq.