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Immigration wasn’t a winning platform
Reading Eagle ^ | November 19, 2006

Posted on 11/20/2006 7:08:25 AM PST by Dane

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Yep let's ride that tancredo train to victory.
1 posted on 11/20/2006 7:08:27 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane

Where's the barf alert?


2 posted on 11/20/2006 7:10:16 AM PST by billybudd
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Ever been to Reading, Dane?

It's full of illegals. And is one of the most violent cities in the country.

Oh, and why are you bashing Tancredo? After all, he has an ACU rating of 100, and you said we couldn't bash Martinez when he had the same rating.

3 posted on 11/20/2006 7:11:07 AM PST by dirtboy (Objects in tagline are closer than they appear)
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In Arizona, through which thousands of illegal immigrates enter the United States each year, GOP Rep. John D. Hayworth lost his bid for a seventh terms in Congress.

How many candidates in favor of shamnesty or a guest-worker program lost? One can always attempt to discern trends by cherry-picking the data.

4 posted on 11/20/2006 7:12:17 AM PST by dirtboy (Objects in tagline are closer than they appear)
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It's full of illegals. And is one of the most violent cities in the country.

More viloent than Detorit, and Reading is in the middle of Amish country, please, your replies are getting ridiculous.

5 posted on 11/20/2006 7:14:04 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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How many candidates in favor of shamnesty or a guest-worker program lost?

DeWine and Chafee lost to even bigger pro-amnesty liberal democrats.

6 posted on 11/20/2006 7:15:21 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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"The Issue: Illegal immigration proves to be less of an issue for the American public than many in Congress had thought."

The problem was many of the solutions smacked of racist, illegal immigration. Where is the big push for a fence up north?

No doubt that this is more of an issue for the southern border states whose hospitals and social services are being driven into the ground.

Here is the two, million dollar questions that has to be answered:

1) Are we willing to commit to a huge, continental fence, (not some 700 mile, unfunded fence)? Would the Right accept a tax increase to pay for it? Or would it need to come from the defense budget, or run up the deficit more?

2) Do we expect that, some how, resources will be found to ship all illegals down south to avoid the amnesty charge?


7 posted on 11/20/2006 7:16:03 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: Dane
Ah, yet another pro-Shamnesty, open borders post by Dane...

Yawn.

8 posted on 11/20/2006 7:17:27 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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New York Times Article relating the fact that the GOP lost 8% of white voters, and it's absolute number is much larger as well. Pure B$ from the shamnesty crowd.
9 posted on 11/20/2006 7:18:55 AM PST by conservativecorner
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Reading is in the middle of Amish country

No, it's not Dane. You're thinking of Lancaster. Reading is sliding downhill in a hurry because of a massive influx of illegals over the last decade. It was ahead of Philly in the most recent violence ranking.

10 posted on 11/20/2006 7:20:55 AM PST by dirtboy (Objects in tagline are closer than they appear)
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DeWine and Chafee lost to even bigger pro-amnesty liberal democrats.

Plenty of other pubbies lost who were in favor of shamnesty or guest worker programs. I'm just pointing out how nonsensical it is to look at two races as proof of a point - especially when Hayworth was tainted by the Abramoff scandal (a little detail you keep attempting to brush aside).

11 posted on 11/20/2006 7:22:20 AM PST by dirtboy (Objects in tagline are closer than they appear)
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God Bless you Dane for keeping to post this articles. People have to listen on this issue big time.

Americans want some compromise on this issue. They want real border security, and they want illegal immigration to end. However, they are not too thrilled with a blanet Deprt them all big or small or starve them over the border approach either.

THe question will be this. If Comprehensive immigration reform passess what next. Shall we keep running people on the "You might become a citizen but I will never view you as legit" platform. During the past year certain Republicans bottled up the bill in Congress. THey had silly political like hearings whose purpose was to grandstand that solve. If we were smart we would pass a bill this Congress. However I think people will not be smart and they will be on the outside looking in next session.


12 posted on 11/20/2006 7:22:45 AM PST by catholicfreeper (Geaux Tigers SEC FOOTBALL ROCKS)
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To: Dane

Better to ride the Dane train to Alta Mexico, formerly the USA....


13 posted on 11/20/2006 7:24:02 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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Yep let's ride that tancredo train to victory.

If his position on illegal immigration is such a loser, why did he win re-election?

14 posted on 11/20/2006 7:25:05 AM PST by Dave Olson
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1) Are you willing to commit to a policy of blindolding the Border Patrol? Would you accept a tax increase to pay for the social services consumed by the illegals? Would you cut the defense budget to pay for it? Or would it need to run up the deficit more?

2) Do you expect that, somehow resources will be found to supply all illegals with all the hospitals, education, training, and insurance they need?

There are no easy answers, but we cannot pretend all the expense is on one side.

15 posted on 11/20/2006 7:26:18 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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16 posted on 11/20/2006 7:26:31 AM PST by tumblindice (Get ready for a long spell in the minority.)
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If his position on illegal immigration is such a loser, why did he win re-election?

While, J.D. Hayworth and Randy Graf lost, 1 out of 3 is good in baseball, very poor in politics.

17 posted on 11/20/2006 7:29:03 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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Quit bringing up facts. They get in the way of Dane's cheer leading for shamnesty.
18 posted on 11/20/2006 7:30:04 AM PST by conservativecorner
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Yes it was .. because every democrat who won WAS STRONG ON IMMIGRATION. Immigration was a winning platform .. but too many of our RINO's were not willing to get onboard.


19 posted on 11/20/2006 7:33:13 AM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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Yes it was .. because every democrat who won WAS STRONG ON IMMIGRATION.

As their vote in the 110th Congress is for nancy pelosi as Speaker.

20 posted on 11/20/2006 7:34:23 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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