Posted on 11/20/2006 7:03:27 AM PST by torchthemummy
Kramer also hosted his own talk show show:
That may be the reason that blacks believe what whites say is the truth but it's not an argument against the fact that blacks believe what whites say is the truth.
If they didn't believe it was the truth, they wouldn't get upset about it.
I don't get upset when someone lies about me, do you?
(Sorry for interrupting your "quiet" evening of listening to [c]rap "music", homeys and hos!)
I watched the clip and I think that Richards just went nuts. He also did seem to be drunk or high. He didn't just "give it back" to the hecklers, he became this vicious hate-filled freak. But because he's a good liberal all will be forgiven by the MSM.
I remember first seeing Richards in an old comedy show called 'Fridays'.
He was in a skit as a hiker with his backpack. Hilarious sight gags.
'I don't get upset when someone lies about me, do you?'
No, doesn't (personally) bother me one way or the other.
But, if a personal stood on stage and described in detail how children should be raped I would be offended. I would be disgusted with the person eventhough I am not a child. Statements would tell me a lot about the inner workings of the speaker also.
Wouldn't be surprised if some substances were involved.
It's Steinfeld!!
Sticks & stones will break my bones
but words will never hurt me.
Look at the invective that's thrown at
Bush 24 hours a day.
Move on, get over it.
Who defines free speech? The NY Times?
That's what I'm saying. Doesn't bother you, doesn't bother me.
But it bothers them because they believe it's true 'cause a white man said it.
That's why whites should be nice and not offend. They have the kavorka over the blacks.
'But because he's a good liberal all will be forgiven by the MSM.'
I've found that most liberals see race in everything. Liberals see race first and the person second. Most Conservatives appear to judge the person first. Not talking about some so called conservatives around here who have personal racial problems and can justify anything.
The REAL Kramer would never have said such things.
I agree. Unlike Mel Gibson, who I think is anti-semitic, I doubt Richards has anything against black people. He was angry at being heckled and tried to push the comedic envelope, with disasterous results.
It was very ugly, but I don't think he's a bigot.
I'm afraid all of us are capable of such things. Maybe not racist comments, but something equally ugly.
'But it bothers them because they believe it's true 'cause a white man said it.'
Somehow, you're missing the point.
If a man is severely beating his dog I am not personally injured. However, I do find this offensive.
I suppose your level of offense is somewhat determined by your love for dogs. But what I think about the offender has absolutely no connection to that person's relationship to me.
I wish, mummy, people in this country would react as violently or hysterically to the every day vulgarity of the popular culture as they are (reacting) to the KGB invented, and Leftist promoted totally abstract and false notion of something called "RACISM!", sideing here with a couple of vulgar, low class nightclub hecklers. Them fish don't know they're wet, mummy! Pity.
Still, there is nothing lower than a heckler---I am not saying they deserved racial fire from Michael Richards, who has obviously been wound tighter than a spring lately, but---having been on stage myself---hecklers are a very SPECIAL breed of A-hole. As far as I'm concerned they shouldn]t get all sensitive suddenly about how their unbelievably rude and pointless behavior is turned back on them. And since the subject ALWAYS seems to come up with never a very satisfying explanation, why, oh why indeed has it always been acceptable for black comics to blithely use the word when onstage? Try to go beyond the usual explanation if you can.
Maybe I spend too much time on FR, but here I see a lot of reaction to vulgar popular culture...don't pay much attention to DBM these days.
The definition of the word "RACISM" has been kind of stretched over the last few years. However, I do believe that most of the 'violent and hysterical' reactions have been about the vulgarity of this particular subject. Something about walking chewing gum at the same time.
'why, oh why indeed has it always been acceptable for black comics to blithely use the word when onstage? Try to go beyond the usual explanation if you can.'
There are somethings you say to your spouse during intimate moments that you would find extremely offensive if I, a stranger, walked up to her in the supermarket and repeated the same words.
I know the above is a stretch, but, start at that point and you may be on the road to an explanation.
"There is no defense for what he said. None."
I wonder what the point of those emphasizing the "double standard" of the event is. The Christians pushing this angle should know better, given Jesus represents their moral ideal.
The black hecklers could have been saying the ultimate worst slurs against whites in the untaped parts of the show, and it *still* would not excuse the behavior of Richards. Just because there are scumbags in the world doesn't give you license to be one too.
Are some whites upset that *they* can't say the word 'nigger' to blacks in the fashion that some blacks say it to themselves? What kind of twisted nonsense is this?
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