Voters Did Not Endorse Amnesty: Open-Borders Advocates Distort Election Results

Human Events ^ | November 20 2006 | Mark Krikorian

[Dane]

Nice. Taking a cheap pot shot at Reagan because you're getting your butt handed to you

When did a fact, Reagan supporting the Brady bill, become a cheap shot?

[Robert A Cook PE]

Almost accurate.
Try reading the article. Many of the Democrats elected supported tough immigration enforcement measures.

These democrats only CLAIMED to be opposing illegal voters (er, immigrants.)

[Dane]

Dane, any immigration bill will have to be signed by Bush. At the end of the day, he is responsible for what will happen.

And you lost, you could have had something on the line of Kyl/Cornyn, but you threw that away for a nancy pelosi house.

[Reagan Man]

It doesn't matter whether Pelosi or anyione else is pushing it, you dummy. Bush will sign the amnesty bill into law. Its exactly what Dubya has been waiting for, for the last six years! And its what you've been waiting for too. LOL

[narby]

what the Dems made the Hispanics think. No one here is anti-Hispanic. We are anti-illegal immigrant.

The Dems had plenty of help from the angry faced border enforcers like J.D. who campaign for soldiers on the border that hispanics are terrified of.

[sageb1]

All I've seen regarding Martinez is that choosing him was geared toward sending a message to Hispanics that Republicans are not anti-Hispanic. The problem is that some also see the choice as being pro-amnesty. Are they wrong to think that? Is it or isn't it a pro-amnesty message?

[Dane]

This is hilarious on two levels, Dane. First of all, you bash Tancredo nonstop, and now you invoke him as a conservative benchmark?

And 100% ACU rated Mel Martinez has not been trashed?

Can you read?

[dirtboy]

And you lost,

I lost?

Any rational evaluation of this issue shows that being anti-illegal-immigration was not the core reason why the GOP lost.

But that is why such escapes you - the rational thingy.

[spectre]

Silence is affirmation, capt.

sw

[sageb1]

The Hispanics wouldn't have anything to be afraid of if they were coming in legally.

[dirtboy]

And 100% ACU rated Mel Martinez has not been trashed?

Well, then, Dane, if you are so aghast at Martinez being trashed, why did you trash Tancredo all these years?

I'm done with you for tonight. You may have the last word, you two-faced weasel.

[Dane]

All I've seen regarding Martinez is that choosing him was geared toward sending a message to Hispanics that Republicans are not anti-Hispanic. The problem is that some also see the choice as being pro-amnesty. Are they wrong to think that? Is it or isn't it a pro-amnesty messa

Well you see what you want to see while you ignore that Martinez is a good conservative with a 100% ACU rating.

[muawiyah]

Hold on ~ no one is bashing Hispanics. In fact, this amnesty proposal would provide illegal Hispanic immigrants with something never given to any other group in the history of this country, and that would be tens of millions of immigration slots.

There is no doubt at all that doing this would result in the EXCLUSION of every individual from every other country on Earth for the next 20 centuries.

Frankly, we have to send these guys home to make room for Pakistanis with Doctorates, Indian software engineers, Japanese designers, Korean entrepreneurs and the occasional refugees from genocide precipitated by Democrats in the US.

Diversity is NOT advanced with more Hispanics.

[sageb1]

I'm not ignoring that. But you are ignoring my question.

[Dane]

Well, then, Dane, if you are so aghast at Martinez being trashed, why did you trash Tancredo all these years?

I'm done with you for tonight. You may have the last word, you two-faced weasel.

Ruh roh someone can't handle the truth. Well you have a good night Dirt.

[BurtSB]

Reality check , the RNC own pollster warned the Senate and Congress and Bush that there stance which lose them 10 % of the RNC Blue collar base. Frank Luntz stated that this demographic thinks law and order and fairness were the most important principles . He stated 10 % of the RNC base did not vote in key midwest and Northeast areas because they thought amnesty was wrong and unfair to them and thy were insulted by Bush comments about " doing the work americans won't do "!Luntz went on to say the WH and Congress did not want to hear these findings and got hostile about them.

[South40]

Oh pkease all one has to do is look at the disgusting remarks towards Mel Martinez on FR, a person who has the same ACU rating as Tom Tancredo, 100%.

Martinez is pro-amnesty

Tancredo is not.

[narby]

If we truly need more people here, bring them in as full-status immigrants. Otherwise, stuff it.

Your mistake is assuming that it's possible to shut off the border. It's not.

Oh sure, it's *possible*, with some draconian measures. But with a republican congress all you got was a partial fence and more (corrupt) border agents. In what fantasy land do you think those draconian measures required to shut the border are ever going to happen?

That being the case, the best compromise is some kind of legal status for mexicans, so we can track them, send the bad ones home, and give the legal ones motivation to assimilate.

Your option is essentially "more of the same", and we see where that got us.

[Dane]

Reality check , the RNC own pollster warned the Senate and Congress and Bush that there stance which lose them 10 % of the RNC Blue collar base. Frank Luntz stated that this demographic thinks law and order and fairness were the most important principles

If your above is true then why is Ms. law and order(sarcasm), nancy pelosi, Speaker?

Can we please have some common sense on this thread.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

Political consequences be d*mned! Social consequences be d*mned! Cultural consequences be d*amned! Religious consequences be d*amned! America will have uncontrolled immigration.