Posted on 11/18/2006 8:13:39 PM PST by Snickering Hound
Let's make a deal with the DA. These folks should be released on nominal bail, and if the out of towners, with no connections to the community, don't return to trial, you will serve their time.
Did you miss where I said that if they were found guilty the maximum fine or jail time should be levied? If the court is worried about out of towners skipping and not returning for a court date then their bail should be set at a comparable rate for the same charge for other persons without community ties. The bail should not be set at a rate well above the usual for such charges.
Since the bail was set so high I think those who are paying it will take steps to make sure the money is not forfeited by defendents' non appearance.
You know, I'm not saying that janitor shouldn't be among the least paid in society. They perform menial, unskilled work, but to call them a bunch of losers is just mean. There will always be people who have less abililty than others, so, yes, they'll make less. That doesn't make them losers. That just makes them poor.
One of my kids has brain damage and will probably do little more than janititorial work. That doesn't make him a loser.
I didn't mean they're *all* losers. I'm referring to the ones on strike blocking traffic. That's all.
There's a big difference between someone with brain damage and someone who refuses to take any steps to improve his lot and station in life. I'm sure the poster wasn't including brain- damaged or any other handicapped people in his assessment.
e don't even know what they were charged with. The overly sympathetic, biased article doesn't state what these people were ultimately charged with. The only article that even gets close to what the charges might be states that a cop on the scene stated some would probably be charged with class-B misdemeanors, but none of the articles, conveniently in my opinion, actually state what all the DA is charging them with. If the charges include such things as reckless endangerment, or certain enhancements, it could bump the bail way up there.
By the way, a condition of being released on bail, in most jurisdictions, is that no offenses be committed while out on bail. In cases where there are repeat offenses, bail can be enhanced by that previous behavior.
I think you're jumping the gun with your assumption that these were peaceful protests or first offenses. And blocking traffic for hours and jumping out of vans in swarms right in front of moving motorists is not a First Amendment right. Yes, they have a right to assemble, but not in the middle of an intersection.
It seems to me that you have allowed yourself to swallow the media's propaganda on these events hook, line and sinker.
I'm the one who made that comment. Really, people who don't wish to improve their lot in life don't bother me a bit. To each his own. Unskilled strikers bug me to no end though. That's who I was referring to when I said "loser".
The problem with unskilled people who won't take steps to improve their lot in life usually end up demanding that someone else improve it for them.
Or maybe perhaps a skill or two along with speaking English.
Just a thought.
Swabbing toilets while speaking Espanol ain't gonna get you far up the food chain.
If not, then what's the point of calling them losers?
No, I'm not for socialized medicine, but we do have a healthcare issue in this country.
No, I'm not for socialized medicine, but we do have a healthcare issue in this country.
I saw them blocking cars and pounding on them.
I would roll on and if they were run over tough shit.
If they broke the window then it makes for a clear shot.
They need to go to the womyn and boys in HR not screw up the streets.
Perhaps they could spend this time off of work to get a skill?
From the other thread on this subject:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1741281/posts?page=114#114
" ... The Houston Chronicle featured one of the strikers a few weeks ago. It was a story about how the woman has breast cancer. You had to go to the jump page before you learned that she is illegal, she is married to an illegal, we are paying for all of her health care, she has had 6 children since she has been here, and they are all in school and on food stamps. ..."
Some probably do have low IQs, which of course is not their fault. On the other hand, is it other peoples' responsibility to make that right for them? Do we pay them what we pay, say, a manager at a Wal-Mart or Home Depot or a door installer or a cabinet maker because it's not their fault they weren't gifted enough to learn a more challenging and rewarding trade? If so, then you're a socialist.
Others simply don't want to learn to do anything else, even though they're capable. They'd rather demand that somebody make up their income insufficiencies for them.
"You know, I'm not saying that janitor shouldn't be among the least paid in society. They perform menial, unskilled work, but to call them a bunch of losers is just mean. There will always be people who have less abililty than others, so, yes, they'll make less. That doesn't make them losers. That just makes them poor."
From my previous post.
Oh don't I know it. I keep forgetting that the constitution is a living document that changes right before the reader's eyes. Kind of like those "can you see Jesus?" puzzle pictures from Catechism class.
No, but they did clean the rooms at Holiday Inn. :)
The thing that non-Texans will never understand is that Texans don't care what non-Texans think about a Texan problem.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.