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Shuler's(D) election means end of quest to finish 'Road to Nowhere'
Fayetteville Observer, AP ^ | November 18, 2006

Posted on 11/18/2006 5:43:33 PM PST by Dane

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To: dljordan

Ah, The Joyce Kilmer service area on the New Jersey Turnpike.... one of Jim McGreevey's favorite places.


41 posted on 11/18/2006 7:01:34 PM PST by kylaka
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To: Dane

Well besides the fact that it's in the middle of a National Park? But let's say they allow them to build the road? You planning on paying for it? Because the families aren't going to pony up $600 million to do it.


42 posted on 11/18/2006 7:03:00 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: billbears
Well besides the fact that it's in the middle of a National Park? But let's say they allow them to build the road? You planning on paying for it? Because the families aren't going to pony up $600 million to do it

Well that's not the point, a road was promised, by FDR and then Secretary of the Interior, Harold Ickes.

But I forgot, you like nancy pelosi and heath shuler, know what is better for the displaced families of Swain county, nevermind.

43 posted on 11/18/2006 7:09:38 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: AntiGuv
I've been going up there myself since I was a kid and building a highway through there would be a travesty even if it were for a good reason, which this is not. It's not even about the road anymore - it's about the money. They need to just settle it out and move on. As for the cemetaries, what more could you want for them than to fade away into the serenity of the Blue Ridge Mountains?

Did you type that from the back of your limosine?

44 posted on 11/18/2006 7:11:06 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

How about burrying you in the lake also?


45 posted on 11/18/2006 7:11:50 PM PST by dalereed
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To: billbears
The road was promised but times change as well. The promise is important but no longer a moral one.

How so? why is it no longer moral because the Fegov dragged there feet in fulfilling there end of the deal?
46 posted on 11/18/2006 7:12:09 PM PST by padre35 (We are surrounded, that simplifies our problem Chesty Puller)
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To: Richard-SIA



What is HR 2088? sorry, but I haven't heard of that bill.


47 posted on 11/18/2006 7:14:04 PM PST by padre35 (We are surrounded, that simplifies our problem Chesty Puller)
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To: AntiGuv

I wouldn't give Swain a dime myself.


48 posted on 11/18/2006 7:19:03 PM PST by Torie
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To: padre35
I've hiked on/near this road several times, and visited at least some of the cemeteries mentioned, and seen the mementoes of those who still care for them. I know there was a promise, but I also know how idiotic and pointless such a road would be, even at 1/100 of the cost.

It seems to me the idea of funding a ferry service, or providing other means for visitors to reach the cemeteries (they can hike like me, it's not *that* remote), fulfills the *principle* behind the original promise. It's virtually impossible to walk a few miles in a straight line in the eastern US without hitting a road, so it would be a tragedy to have such a pointless highway built in a beautiful wilderness area.

49 posted on 11/18/2006 7:35:15 PM PST by Liberty1970
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To: Liberty1970
It seems to me the idea of funding a ferry service, or providing other means for visitors to reach the cemeteries (they can hike like me, it's not *that* remote), fulfills the *principle* behind the original promise.

The original FDR/Harold Ickes promise was a road, not different transportation.

50 posted on 11/18/2006 7:38:48 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: billbears

My dad grew up in Andrews, North Carolina...his parents retired to Robbinsville. My aunt, his sister was married to a postmaster who passed away of a tumor in the mid 1980's, she was still alive the last I knew a few years ago...perhaps you knew the Carvers. Blaine was the post master in question and Frances was his wife.

My dad passed away at Natahala(lived in his second wife's family homestead near the high school)3 years ago this thanks- giving so your posting brings it all home to me. I lived for a year in Andrews when I was still a boy, a year after my parents divorced. The whole mountain country side was wonderful!


51 posted on 11/18/2006 7:40:45 PM PST by mdmathis6 (Save the Republic! Mess with the polling firms' heads!)
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To: padre35

H.R. 2088: Veterans' Heritage Firearms Act of 2005

A bill in US Congress: To provide an amnesty period during which veterans and their family members can register certain firearms in the National Firearms ...
www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h109-2088 - 23k -


52 posted on 11/18/2006 7:46:09 PM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Dane
But I forgot, you like nancy pelosi and heath shuler, know what is better for the displaced families of Swain county, nevermind.

LOL, I do so enjoy conversing with party faithful..

The report identified five possible alternatives for resolving the long-running debate, including doing no further work on the road and making a $52 million payment to Swain County to buyout the 1943 agreement; and extending the road to the dam _ a project that comes with a projected price tag of some $600 million.

So to 'fulfill' a promise made by a Democrat over 70 years ago, you suggest we just plop down another $600 million (which will end up being over $1 billion by the time it's said and done) and in the process destroy some of the most beautiful land this side of Heaven, that BTW is already a national park. Land that I seriously doubt you've ever seen. And because a Democrat is against it, it must necessarily be a good thing to be for it, right?

There are literally thousands of gravesites, and some of those folks I'm related to, in the mountains of NC that are unreachable by road. But it's land that doesn't need a road. I myself have walked to some of these gravesites (not the ones mentioned in the article but kin buried between Franklin and Murphy). Using a GPS and a map just to find where you believe they may be. It's land that's undisturbed. Step out in some areas and you're in the 1700s-1800s within a few feet. It's almost as if you can hear your ancestors walking and talking beside you. Now if that makes me a liberal or some sort of nut in your eyes, then so be it. I've reached a point in my life that I don't need nor want to have everything paved over. Some things and locales supersede progress. And this area is one of them

53 posted on 11/18/2006 8:08:51 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Dane

Absolutely one of the most beautiful places anywhere. I've still got some pictures stashed somewhere of that area, including one rather spectacular shot of what I think is the Fontana Dam from about a thousand feet above it. I thought I was on US 129 when I got the picture, but that map seems to indicate I would've been on another highway, or else I wasn't looking down on Fontana Dam.

I see Cades Cove mentioned there too...my mother-in-law married her second husband up there (he's originally from Oak Ridge, his father worked at the Y-12 plant).

}:-)4


54 posted on 11/18/2006 8:10:50 PM PST by Moose4 (Baa havoc, and let slip the sheep of war.)
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To: Torie

I wouldn't give them any more than whatever is standard for national parks.


55 posted on 11/18/2006 8:17:37 PM PST by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: Dane

Odd that a former NFL quarterback would become a scumbag Democrat.


56 posted on 11/18/2006 8:22:40 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: kylaka

"Ah, The Joyce Kilmer service area on the New Jersey Turnpike.... one of Jim McGreevey's favorite places."

Oh geez!


57 posted on 11/18/2006 9:12:34 PM PST by dljordan
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To: CheyennePress
He's right on this road. I just can't believe the man is in office.

I think that fact that Shuler is on the right side of this issue and the GOP representative was wrong, is a sad commentary on today's GOP.

58 posted on 11/18/2006 9:18:36 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Richard-SIA



Thanks Richard-SIA


59 posted on 11/18/2006 9:21:07 PM PST by padre35 (We are surrounded, that simplifies our problem Chesty Puller)
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To: dfwgator
Nonsense he is dead wrong and taking the wrong track on the issue.

It is a sad day when supposedly freedom loving responsible people will simply write off a entire community because well, the flowers are pretty.

You have no clue why shuler is doing what he is doing.

It isn't because of his principles or even the money.
60 posted on 11/18/2006 9:24:38 PM PST by padre35 (We are surrounded, that simplifies our problem Chesty Puller)
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