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Megachurch pastor's trip draws criticism (Rick Warren,islam's newest useful idiot)
AP via newsobserver.com ^ | 11/16/2006 | BRIAN MURPHY

Posted on 11/17/2006 11:39:05 AM PST by Dark Skies

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To: word_warrior_bob
That's the way this article is slanted - but you cannot tell, it's AP reporting.

The MSM can't imagine anyone doing anything if not for self-aggrandenment.
21 posted on 11/17/2006 12:07:02 PM PST by Vinny (You can't compromise with evil.)
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To: Hegemony Cricket
Shamelessly stolen from yesterday's thread:

Warren is planning on running "40 Days of Purpose for Mosques" campaigns.

Day 1 - Kill an infidel
Day 2 - Kill an infidel
Day 3 - Kill an infidel . . .

(and for the record, I suffered through a 40 Days of Purpose campaign)
22 posted on 11/17/2006 12:08:10 PM PST by horse_doc
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To: Dark Skies

wonderful, another liberal politician pretending to be "holy".

another Wallis idiot.


23 posted on 11/17/2006 12:09:39 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

"Purpose Driven Jihad"


24 posted on 11/17/2006 12:11:48 PM PST by fishtank
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To: Dark Skies

"There's a trend that religious figures - once they get a certain level of visibility and fame - seem to get pulled into politics," said Noll. "Warren is at this stage. The question is whether he is looking for new worlds to conquer."


Jesus said to peter eat of the snakes and lizards, aka preach to the gentiles, the unbelievers. So, if that's what this guy is doing, good for him, to assist in opening up missionary chances. What is everyone else doing on this thread to make a better world, besides getting finger callouses? I don't know this guy at all but, at first blush, cut him some slack.


25 posted on 11/17/2006 12:12:50 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: word_warrior_bob

If you want an example of Warren's name-dropping skills, read this transcript. Rick was on a roll!


http://pewforum.org/events/index.php?EventID=80


26 posted on 11/17/2006 12:15:10 PM PST by Cecily (`)
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To: Obadiah
On the surface you may believe that Warren is doing something good. I wish I had the time to tell you of the extensive damage his philosophy has caused at otherwise well-grounded churches. His ambitions go far astray and beyond spreading the Gospel, but unfortunately too many buy right into the fad and can explain away (cough, cough) all the questionable practices and interpretation of Scripture.

I suppose that unless you have experienced it, it may be difficult to comprehend the passion of those who criticize Warren.

27 posted on 11/17/2006 12:19:37 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Dark Skies
Straddling the worlds of faith and diplomacy is nothing new for religious leaders. In 1977, Graham preached in communist Hungary

Graham preached in Hungary...did Warren preach in Syria? That's the question I'd like answered.

28 posted on 11/17/2006 12:21:50 PM PST by dawn53
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

When you have the time, I'd like to hear about this damage. We did the 40 Days program last year at a solid Bible-believing church. I never approved of our using it and I was underwhelmed with the book. That said, however, it did a lot of good, I think, for the church and brought in a lot of people interested in hearing about him who stayed on and have become believers.


29 posted on 11/17/2006 12:23:40 PM PST by twigs
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To: Dark Skies

"I believe it is a mistake to not talk to nations considered hostile - isolation and silence has never solved conflict anywhere, whether between spouses or between nations," Warren said in the statement Ross released Thursday.



What an unintelligent narcissistic gasbag this guy is! Comparing marital issues to those of a terrorist-supporting, insurgent-supporting totalitarian regime. I wonder if he has ever heard the term "non sequitur." I guess if only we could send Rick Warren to all four corners of the world he can solve all of our problems. I wonder if, in breaking the silence, he asked Assad to stop sending terrorists into Iraq to kill our soldiers.


Here's the SANA story, including picture:

http://www.sana.org/eng/21/2006/11/12/84711.htm

He loves them so much he even gave them "a memorial drawing as a gift to the Syrian people for their generosity and hospitality, thanking their efforts exerted for maintaining peace and harmony."


30 posted on 11/17/2006 12:27:32 PM PST by FarRightFanatic
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To: FarRightFanatic
Funny how he can put on a nice suit and tie for the dictator Assad and the Grand Mufti, but a sloppy Hawaiian shirt and khakis or jeans are good enough for the pulpit.
31 posted on 11/17/2006 12:31:41 PM PST by Cecily (`)
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To: Cecily

Whew, that was a long article, my assessment of him hasn't changed, he wants everyone to love him. Against gay marraige, has dinner with gay couple with aids. The environment is a moral issue, against activist judges.

I see a cocaine 3 hooker hotel orgy in his future.


32 posted on 11/17/2006 12:32:14 PM PST by word_warrior_bob
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
I don't know this guy at all but, at first blush, cut him some slack.

Normally, I might. But he walked right into the enemy camp and gave them a photo op. Unless his trip was cleared by the WH and State (and I serious doubt it was), it really p!sses me off.

33 posted on 11/17/2006 12:32:30 PM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: word_warrior_bob

I will give him credit for standing his ground at the end of his meeting with the journalists when they started getting testy with him over church and state and lawmaking issues. He is still a wolf in sheep's clothing, though.


34 posted on 11/17/2006 12:34:56 PM PST by Cecily (`)
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"Funny how he can put on a nice suit and tie for the dictator Assad and the Grand Mufti, but a sloppy Hawaiian shirt and khakis or jeans are good enough for the pulpit."

Good catch -- dress up for the kings of earth, dress down for the King of Kings!


35 posted on 11/17/2006 12:38:32 PM PST by hiho hiho
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To: word_warrior_bob

Bingo. Wanting to be a celebrity more than anything.

I have seen more than one 'preacher' like this. I seen the people of their congregations. From the outside, their preacher is right up their with the Savior.

I'm sure they don't see it for themselves, but there's a huge difference between spreading the good news and making yourself the news.


36 posted on 11/17/2006 12:38:40 PM PST by Madeleine Ward
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To: Cecily

I'm sticking with my prediction in post 32.

There will be an "I have sinned" moment!


37 posted on 11/17/2006 12:39:06 PM PST by word_warrior_bob
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To: Dark Skies

Unless his trip was cleared by the WH and State (and I serious doubt it was), it really p!sses me off.

Good point. the law is the law. render unto caesar's what is caesar's.


38 posted on 11/17/2006 12:40:40 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: FarRightFanatic
you can ridicule, name call, and belittle Rick, all you want, but the fact is he is trying to do something. All he is trying to do is spread God's word. He is receiving the same treatment Paul received in his travels.+
39 posted on 11/17/2006 12:41:02 PM PST by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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To: BooBoo1000

He is receiving the same treatment as Paul? Are you kidding me? In his world, Rick is a rock star. The world loves him and can't praise him enough because he tells people what they want to hear and doesn't step on their toes too much. He is nothing like the Apostle Paul, and furthermore, if Paul were here today, he would set this self-promoting, sorry exegete straight in no time.


40 posted on 11/17/2006 12:52:15 PM PST by Cecily (`)
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