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Mo. library worker who claims religious discrimination for working Sundays wins lawsuit[Missouri]
AP ^ | 16 Nov 2006 | Dana Fields

Posted on 11/16/2006 2:19:43 PM PST by FLOutdoorsman

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To: Airwinger

Do I personally think they should work around her schedule? Of course. Do I think it should be illegal to choose to find an employee who can work the hours they want? No.


41 posted on 11/16/2006 4:09:18 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: diefree

"What does that have to do with not being able to work on Tuesday?"

Hypothetically, if you have a demonstrable need to worship on Tuesday, then it applies.


42 posted on 11/16/2006 4:13:53 PM PST by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: swmobuffalo

You cannot dictate to a company the days and hours you will work. No law covers that, yet.


43 posted on 11/16/2006 4:18:27 PM PST by diefree
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To: diefree

Ok, I give. Reading comprehension isn't your strong point. I just posted the law that covers it.

And in essence, yes you can dictate that particular desire. The law backs you.


44 posted on 11/16/2006 4:20:21 PM PST by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: swmobuffalo

That law covers no such thing.


45 posted on 11/16/2006 4:22:10 PM PST by diefree
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To: swmobuffalo

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Companies do, however, have some flexibility in how they accommodate employees. An employer is required to make reasonable accommodations -- not to accept whatever accommodation the employee suggests, nor to spare the employee all expenses in making the accommodation. For example, your employer might give you the day off for a religious observance, but do so without pay. Or, if changing an employee's schedule to accommodate a religious belief would wreak havoc on a seniority system and cause severe morale problems among other employees, the employer might not have to agree to it.
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46 posted on 11/16/2006 4:27:25 PM PST by diefree
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To: FLOutdoorsman

There's a reason most city/county libraries across the country are closed on Sundays.

When I was a child, the only businesses open on Sunday were drug stores (and not usually all day) and hospitals. A few gas stations might be open. But that was all. Then they relaxed the Blue Laws, and malls started opening from noon to 6:00pm or so.


47 posted on 11/16/2006 4:35:16 PM PST by petitfour
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To: diefree

And your point is? Or are we back to the Tuesday thing again?
Did you expect to be paid for that day? No one I know of including myself ever expected to get paid for having Sunday off.


48 posted on 11/16/2006 4:37:00 PM PST by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: petitfour

In New York City, in the time of the Sunday Blue Law, the Jews were allowed to open their stores on Sunday but only if they were closed on Saturday. It was a fair exchange.


49 posted on 11/16/2006 4:39:43 PM PST by diefree
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To: swmobuffalo

You worked a four day week then?


50 posted on 11/16/2006 4:40:32 PM PST by diefree
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To: FLOutdoorsman

'Damages might be just part of the cost to the library district. The judge also could order it to pay Rehm's legal fees – and Gibbs' firm is seeking nearly $300,000 for their work.'

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And if the library district doesn't have to pay the $300,000 in legal fees, who will? Surely not Mrs. Rehm.


51 posted on 11/16/2006 4:45:35 PM PST by JockoManning (Listen Online http://www.klove.com)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

I disagree with this ruling. An employer should have no requirement to consider a persons religion in business decisions, & it would be illegal. If the woman doesn't want to work on Sunday, find another job. Now the library's other employees will have to work more often on Sunday, to cover for the woman.

Or perhaps the library should close on Sunday; & Friday & Saturday also to accommodate muslims & Jews. With enough diversity in the library staff, the library will close for good - 7 days a week.

And what if this were a hospital or police station. Would they be forced to close on Sunday to accommodate a pious community?

If this woman had said her beliefs prohibit her working on even numbered days, must her employer keep her on staff? Suppose she is undecided about whether to be a muslim, Jew, or Christian & decides to honor all three holy days while she makes her decision? Prayer rugs & prayer rooms & goat sacrifices in the conference room can't be far behind. This is all ludicrous!

This ruling also opens up another problem. If working on Sunday is taboo, how about Easter or Christmas or the MONTH of Ramadan or the umpteen other religious holidays of the hundreds of religions & sects. How could a large employer schedule his work force, given that he can't ask about an employee's religion? How could a 24/7 manufacturer function if a large group of employees wont work on certain days?

Finally, if any day is holy to a religion, wouldn't it be disrespectful & discriminatory for ANY commerce to take place on that day, so all business must remain closed out of respect & consideration?

This woman is forcing her religious beliefs on the library, & that is wrong.


52 posted on 11/16/2006 4:49:55 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: JockoManning

This decision is opening a door to special treatment for anyone who only has to say he/she is religious.

All Muslims can demand Fridays off.
All Jews can demand Saturdays off.
All Christians can demand Sundays off.

I wonder which days Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists and Wiccans practice.


53 posted on 11/16/2006 4:51:11 PM PST by diefree
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To: diefree

Now that's a scary thought!


54 posted on 11/16/2006 4:55:24 PM PST by JockoManning (Listen Online http://www.klove.com)
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To: diefree

No in many cases, I worked a 6 day week.


55 posted on 11/16/2006 5:04:44 PM PST by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: swmobuffalo

So when you applied for a job with a schedule of Thursday through Monday you told your employer that you'd take it but you wouldn't work Sundays?


56 posted on 11/16/2006 5:07:52 PM PST by diefree
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To: diefree

The last job I held the schedule started on Thursday and ran through Wednesday. Sundays were many times the only day off I had. I took the job with the understanding of having Sunday off because of church obligations, chiefly because I am minister's wife.


57 posted on 11/16/2006 5:10:02 PM PST by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: swmobuffalo

Did you demand Sunday off under the law? Or, was it a job where it didn't matter?

I am trying to get to the bottom of your understanding of the law. Do you think you are entitled to Sundays off no matter who you work for? Do you think the law provides for that?


58 posted on 11/16/2006 5:13:51 PM PST by diefree
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To: diefree

"Do you think you are entitled to Sundays off no matter who you work for? Do you think the law provides for that?"

Do I think I'm entitled, no more than the next person. The law provides protection for my desire to fullfill my religious beliefs and under that law, if I request accomodation for my beliefs, they are required to oblige me.
As for any employer I work for, it would be a consideration on my part as to who I worked for. I realize that's not an option for everyone.
I didn't demand at my last job, I requested. The manager and I discussed it quite lengthily and I never once brought up the law.


59 posted on 11/16/2006 6:03:43 PM PST by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: swmobuffalo

they are not "required" to accommodate you.


60 posted on 11/16/2006 6:17:48 PM PST by diefree
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