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1 posted on 11/10/2006 6:59:09 AM PST by Pokey78
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He's right. The GOP squandered the opportunity of the century to pack it to the rat party. Yes, that is what it is about. Don't believe that? Just look at what the dems have done over and over to get back power. They are up front, in your face and never back down and make nice. Just as it is when dealing with terrorists, when they slap you slap them back, don't try to ignore it in order to "not stoop to their level". When the dems lie, bring it up front and scream it in their face that they are liars and let the world know why they are liars. When the dems hit you, hit them back harder and repeatedly. Quit being wusses, if the dems don't like something, shove it in their faces. Veto their pet bills, use their tactics such as fillibustering judges against them now that the GOP is in the minority. Do IT! They did it and obviously gained no ill will from the electorate. Finally, now is the time to rid ourselves of the rinos. Kick the asses of the state GOP to get rid of the Hagels and McCains.

The bottom line is that the dems are NOT our friends, never have been and never will be. The goal always should be to defeat them and not to bow to them. GET SOME NADS GOP AND FIGHT!


68 posted on 11/10/2006 7:17:53 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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Dang you liberal-like idiots. I knew that's all a bunch of you would have as a response to Newt. "How many ex-wives blah blah blah."

Can't refute his ideas so you start with the personal attacks. Shame. Shame. Shame.

Newt 100% spot on.


70 posted on 11/10/2006 7:18:17 AM PST by PjhCPA (Who will be the next Ronald Reagan? We'd better find him. SOON!!!)
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President Bush himself said he was partially responsible for the losses of the majority.

As far as the timing of the Rumsfeld's departure, no time was good. If it was announced two weeks before the elections, it would've been a "stunt". Maybe if it had been done at the start of the year, or the start of the spring...some time before the general public began to notice the campaigns, then the new SecDef might have had a chance to put another face on the war.

Let me make it clear: I think Rummy is a great guy and did a fantastic job. The politics of the situation, though, would have been better if he had left earlier.

Of course, I don't think anyone went to the ballot box thinking about Rumsfeld...just the "war" in general.

Another thing that the Republicans SHOULD have done but didn't: point out the Democrats' hatred of the troops--Durbin's comments, Kennedy's comments, Murtha's comments, Kerry's comments...all were fodder for showing how the Democrats don't really support American military success. But the REPUBLICANS were too sensitive, and didn't want to "question the patriotism" of the traitorous 'rats.

So, here we are. Let's do our best to change course in two years.

71 posted on 11/10/2006 7:19:16 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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"Gingrich says"

Newt, STFU.

Give me your plan, not who you blame.

You will never sit behind the desk of the oval office.

Reagan would shake his head and turn his back on you, as I have done.

74 posted on 11/10/2006 7:19:49 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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Taking questions after a medical forum, the former GOP congressman from Cobb County said four c's — an absence of competence in Republican performance, an absence of candor, corruption and the bad advice of consultants — led to Tuesday's defeat.

Remind me again ... the reason he had to resign from Congress was ????

76 posted on 11/10/2006 7:20:06 AM PST by Mo1 (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi is 2 heart beats away from the Presidency)
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I know this is tough to air out in the open and I think Newt should think before he says things but he is telling the truth.

Bush was the leader of the Republican Party (whether you like it or not) and he did take responsiblity for the election results. Compassionate conservatism and trying to "split the baby down the middle" does not work. Bush needed his conservative base to come out in this election (especially in a mid-term) and they were not convinced are excited about what Republicans have been doing.

A wake up call is a good thing ever once in a while. I just hope we will not be paying very long for this mistake.


77 posted on 11/10/2006 7:20:53 AM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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Wouldn't it be nice if a VOTER was held reponsible for his/her vote?

Getting married, having a child and voting are the three most important things a person will do in life. Unfortunately, none of them seem to be taken seriously anymore.


85 posted on 11/10/2006 7:22:33 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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new title:
"Gingrich says scandles like cheating on your wife caused pubbies to lose the election"


90 posted on 11/10/2006 7:23:12 AM PST by fhlh (Since 11/7/06, The MSM has failed to inform me about any of our soldiers dying in Iraq)
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You're late to the realization Newt.

I haven't believed a word Bush said for almost two years. With occasional lapses but then more Bush BS always set me straight.

Take that joke that is the entire raison degree for the second term- THE BUSH DOCTRINE. Every word a lie.

But yet where the President blatantly lies- saying he will keep Rumsfeld- and days later fires him- you still have the Bush worshippers laying into anyone who questions their idol.

Bush lied to your face. I disagree with the idea that if he had told earlier of his plans Republicans would have been saved.

But he still lied - blatantly- shamelessly- and without any reasonable excuse.

So the political idol worshippers will make up excuses for him and attack anyone who point to the naked king.

It's going to be a full time job. They will need make excuses plenty in the next two years.


96 posted on 11/10/2006 7:24:56 AM PST by Sabramerican (Says the piano player: America's greatest legacy will be to create a Palestinian State)
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I blame the MSMedia for its constant attacks on President Bush. It finally worked. "Bush lied, he played on our fears" from albore "culture of corruption" from pelosi, "torture" these and many more played from our TV's and radios over and over many times every day. It finally worked, the MSM is not dead, it is alive and well.


98 posted on 11/10/2006 7:25:06 AM PST by Ditter
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I agree with Newt, the firing of Rumsfeld was handled BADLY. I always admired the President for his directness and candor. He tried to pull a Clinton and even Tony Snow could not make it right.

I think Rumsfeld and the American people deserved better!!

If the STRATEGY in IRAQ is changed to one of NEGOTIATION with Syria and Iran, all we accomplished will have been done for nothing!!

104 posted on 11/10/2006 7:26:27 AM PST by PISANO
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Although he didn't directly reference Iraq, Newt is mostly spot on.
Of course the Kool-Aid-addled GOP sycophants will deny this, call him names, and spittle will fly at their monitors.

No matter. The truth, however inconvenient, can't be stifled.


118 posted on 11/10/2006 7:32:05 AM PST by Constitution Day (I guess Rove isn't such a Magnificent Bastard, after all.)
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Newt is a moron. The conservatives threw away their chance for conservative government.

Why don't you run Newt? You could probably get 100,000 votes.


123 posted on 11/10/2006 7:36:09 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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"It's inappropriate to cleverly come out the day after an election to do something we were told before the election would not be done," Gingrich said. "I think the timing was exactly backwards and I hope the President will rethink how he engages the American people and how he communicates with candor."

I've lost a lot of respect for Newt over the years, but he's right on this one.

It was a bad move, W. Through everything, the one thing we count on is your integrity. That you say what you mean and you mean what you say. This doubletalk undermines that.

It smells of CYA. He fired Rummy because of the political fallout but doesn't want to admit that he fired Rummy because of the political fallout. He'd rather say that he mislead us two weeks ago. I don't get it.

126 posted on 11/10/2006 7:36:39 AM PST by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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Newt is as much to blame as anyone. When he appeared on liberal shows like Great Van Susterin's show, he continually attacked republicans.

While I believe that Newt has an important role to pin Conservative politics, he will NEVER be elected to office again.

He is indeed the Gingrich that stole Christmas.

LLS


127 posted on 11/10/2006 7:37:13 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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I'm not a Bushbot, by my reckoning, but it isn't easy being POTUS and according to Laura, George W. isn't perfect.
And when I think of how fouled up it could be if I were POTUS---!
Or Newt Gingrich!
Well, it makes me want to cut a little slack for W. Not his fault there are so many stupid people voting.
He beat Gore and Kerry, he nominated Alito and Roberts, he freed Iraq and Afghanistan of heinous tyrants.
You who think you can do better, cast the stones at him.


140 posted on 11/10/2006 7:44:21 AM PST by Graymatter
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Well Newt, you will not be getting any votes from me, so carry on....

You can't do much more damage to this party, so kick the rubble and enjoy your waning political capital....

145 posted on 11/10/2006 7:47:53 AM PST by Cold Heat (We blew it..... So back to work we go........)
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I totally agree with Newt regarding the Rumsfeld issue. Had Pres. Bush replaced Rumsfeld weeks ago, we might have at least held on to the Senate, and quite possibly both houses. That he was planning to replace him, but held off until the day after the election is unbelievably ham-handed.


146 posted on 11/10/2006 7:48:03 AM PST by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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I'm not a Bush apologist, what Newt says makes sense and it should me said. We have nothing to lose now, lets get the dirty laundry aired so we have our act together in 2 years.


151 posted on 11/10/2006 7:51:59 AM PST by stacytec (Nihilism, its whats for dinner)
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What is wrong with these jackasses coming out from under their rocks to bash Bush NOW?


161 posted on 11/10/2006 7:55:44 AM PST by EnquiringMind
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