Posted on 11/09/2006 6:43:11 PM PST by george76
--It would be a shame if in the end he loses. Hayworth is a GREAT spokesman for the party.--
Right; the RNC was premature in replacing Mehlman with Steele. They should have waited, and offered the chairmanship to JD if he was available.
--We lost many races across the country by less than one percent...while the Libertarian got two or three percent!--
As Newman said to Seinfeld, it's time for "An Alliance!"
--Libertarians have devolved mostly into a collection of the antimoral nuts.-
Smells like $oro$. Perhaps those rumors about him bankrolling them are true.
Actually, there are some ways to deal with this: 1. promote a "green" or a Socialist candidate; 2. Invite the Liberaltarian to the debates, and smoke him/her out on their position on drug legalization, abortion, pornography, the Patriot Act, etc. Course of action number 2 above will have the practical effect of identifying the Liberaltarian with the Democrats, and may even siphon off some Left-Wing votes that would have gone to the 'Rats.
Here's an idea: instead of blaming libertarians, how about running better candidates? You might want to start your list of potential candidates by eliminating corrupt pols. Oh, wait, the voters already eliminated one in AZ-5.
If Bush/Rove, the RNC and RINOs are going to tweak the noses of their constituents for years, they shouldn't be so surprised when they get it back on election day.
How much money and support did they give to J.D. and Graf? Bush/Rove and the RNC wanted them out more than they wanted to retain control of the congress.
Think about it. Who's really to blame for these election results?
The Libertarians or Bush's record, out-of-control domestic spending and borrowing, his spending in Iraq and his stupid stance on illegal immigration?
George Soros and the Libertarians
George Soros' ties to Libertarian "anti-war" groups like Lewrockwell.com are a concern for cause. Soros is merging the ideals of hardline Socialism and Libertarianism which is suppose to be the exact opposite of hardline Socialism into a Libertarian-Socialist.
It is through this merging Soros and his associates are enabled to infiltrate other political circles besides Democratic, Liberal and Leftist circles within America and elsewhere around the world. Soros' influence over at Lewrockwell.com with Soros' anti-War on Drug status is a major concern. Soros is tied to "alternative anti-drug" groups that are not honest on the affects on illegal drugs onto the American public. These drugs include mostly maijuana, but can include cocaine to what these "alternative" groups advocate. Soros' Open Society Institute funds these "alternative" groups and encourages for the "drug alternative" to the current anti-drug groups like DARE.
More evidence can be looked right here:
http://www.csdp.org/links.htm
This group that I displayed is linked to someone who works for Lewrockwell.com as a columnist. He has regularly made anti-drug war comments in attempt to bash America as the "Great Satan" along with attacking America's position on drugs. Many of these "alternative" groups are also linked to the ACLU another Soros' funded outlet which is tied to MoveOn.org. There is a clear case that Soros is attempting to influence Libertarian groups into going against the drug war America is waging. Soros is using Libertarian ideologues and turning the ideologues into anti-American ideologues to what Anthony Gregory at Lewrockwell.com and Lew himself have become.
Soros is also merging these Libertarian ideologues with other anti-American ideologues that are found on the radical Left which are mostly made up of hardline Socialists and Communists. Thus the term-Libertarian-Socialist. Lewrockwell.com has not just forwarded Soros' belief that the War on Drugs should end, but it has also praised Noam Chomsky and Michael Moore. Both have always loved to label America as the "Great Satan" of the world. Chomsky and Moore especially since Chomsky believes America is "continuing" Nazi Germany's foreign policy while Moore praises Iraqi terrorists as the "revolution of Iraq" and that they are "freedom fighters". These are all signs on how Soros and his Communist pals are perfectly exploiting Libertarian ideologues and are recruiting them into the anti-American Communist-Socialist mindset.
Libertarian ideologues are so hardline with their beliefs, that they believe anyone who disagrees with their policies is to the Left of them. That type of thinking can lead to exploitation by anti-American ideologues and Communist agents through people like Soros and his associates. Such ideologues like these can no longer remain sane and are being used as puppets to forward a secret agenda.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1735129/posts?page=140#140
Thursday, February 02, 2006
BILLIONAIRES SECRETLY MET IN ASPEN TO DEFEAT BUSH
10/19/04 from The New Yorker Magazine
In the days following the Democratic Convention in Boston this past August, several billionaire Democratic activists secretly met at the famed Aspen Institute in Colorado...their clandestine meeting ... the New Yorker magazine reports in its most recent edition.
Details of the meeting remain sketchy... The Aspen meeting was supposed to have been a top secret within Democratic party circles.
When The New Yorker inquired about the meeting, an assistant to one of the attendees was surprised by the call.
"No one was supposed to know about this,” the aide told the magazine. "We don’t want people thinking it’s a cabal or some sort of Masonic plot!”
Apparently the leader of the secret cabal is billionaire Peter B. Lewis; the chairman of the Cleveland, Ohio-based insurance company, the Progressive Corporation.
Like another attendee, George Soros, the wealthy financier, Lewis has poured millions into Democratic 527 groups, including Americans Coming Together and Moveon.org.
Another billionaire who attended was John Sperling, founder of the online University of Phoenix.
Also present were Herb and Marion Sandler from California. The couple founded the Golden West Financial Corporation, a California Bank reportedly worth $17 billion.
Still, the wealthiest and most notable of those attending the meeting was George Soros, the 74-year-old Hungarian immigrant who desperately wants to defeat George Bush and has even compared him to the likes of Adolph Hitler.
Apparently, all was not roses at the billionaire confab, according to The New Yorker.
"The billionaires spent much of the time moaning the superior powers of the GOP,” the magazine said, and the group even needed some cheerleading from Harold Ickes, a former top aide to Bill Clinton who is involved in the 527 efforts.
The magazine said Soros had planned to keep a low profile in the closing months of the election, but suddenly changed course this summer when he decided to "jettison the strategy in favor of waging his own media-grabbing political campaign.”
Soros sees Bush as the face man for a secret cabal. "Bush was just chosen as a figurehead, an acceptable face for sinister group,” Soros told The New Yorker, adding, "Cheney is the Capo.”
Clearly Soros knows a thing or two about secret cabals and Capos.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/10/19/131508.shtml
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1735129/posts?page=132#132
Where are you getting this information ?
Agreed. Wouldn't surprise me if RNC money had found its way to Tancredo's Rat opponent.
The conservative third party candidate in VA got over 20,000 votes. Allen lost by 9,000.
Crap..if he would have said he'd consider that silly train, we would have won..
Maybe
Bookmark
why would pointing out facts make you paint me as a traitor?
I think everyone here needs to look at the numbers and the facts instead of blaming everyone else for what was in fact a very one sided blowout.
Supporters of more relaxed policies on illegal immigration count among the casualties of the Democratic victory at least 11 House members who had opposed giving illegal immigrants an opportunity to gain legal residency and, ultimately, citizenship.Representative J. D. Hayworth published a book on immigration titled “Whatever It Takes” and campaigned heavily on a platform of sealing the border and ejecting illegal immigrants.
Although Mr. Hayworth, a six-term Republican from the suburbs of Phoenix, has not conceded defeat, unofficial tallies indicate that he has lost his seat by four percentage points to a Democrat, Harry Mitchell.
Mr. Mitchell, who is a former mayor of Tempe, had said that a path to citizenship made sense in some cases.
Also in Arizona, a self-described Minuteman border vigilante, Randy Graf, a Republican seeking an open seat near the border, was soundly defeated by Gabrielle Giffords, a Democrat willing to consider citizenship for some illegal immigrants.
Funny you should mention that. I've filled out some of these "we need your comments" emails from various Republican organizations, and recommended that they organize their own "vetting" program to prevent future Foley and Ney type surprises. Certainly it's better not to have to worry about a few thousand votes that some Liberaltarian got with George Soros money. That having been said, if anti-corruption efforts fail to keep the Libertarians from running candidates who could impact GOP candidates, there's nothing wrong with blowing the whistle on the anarchatarian program. Hell, it might even send a few more Democrat votes your way.
you insinuated that i was a troll
i was merely defending myself
some of you are way too paranoid on here. not everyone who disagrees or points out inconvienant facts is a troll
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