Posted on 11/09/2006 9:04:16 AM PST by Hal1950
This last one may be from some pinko rag so until I can find the source, well, don't be too sure of the content.
That kind of information would be strictly limited on a need-to-know basis; the hospital corpsman following doctor's orders would not necessarily know that he was performing experiments.
If a full crew heard the scuttlebutt of "holy s--t, we shot down an airliner", total secrecy would be nearly impossible. I'm not saying it couldn't have happened, but it's darned unlikely.
So you think our military shoot down civilian airliners and cover it up? I suppose you think that they barbecue babies and stomp on kittens in Iraq, too. What makes a person loath the military that much?
I, for one, am still waiting.
That's because they were all being replaced by the Mk.1 Sooper Dooper Cosmic Nuclear Death Ray.
Obviously they were evil geniuses during those odd moments when they weren't being bumbling incompetents.
when I was in my USMC/VA retirement classes at San Diego, there was a Navy diver in there and he told me that he dove on the recovery site and had orders to move & hide all missle parts that were recovered underwater & moved to a site away from the crash site. I did not believe that our goverment [at that time] would kill somany of our fellow citzens. But then there was Waco, Ruby Ridge, & Ok. City [which I still believe that the goverment had some hand in it]
Some of us my believe that I need a tinfoil hat, for this posting, but it is my humble offering on this matter.
Did he happen to mention how he was able to tell the missile parts from the airplane parts in a hundred feet of water, low visibility, and while wearing diving equipment? Just curious.
I do not remember that much from this week of my life, but if you had noticed that a lot of the really small parts did not come up from the bottom. As to the visabality question, from the viedo footage that I have seen, it was possible to see a bit in a very limited fasion with the high intensity lights that they were using underwater on the dive gear.
But your friend said he wasn't bringing up the parts, he was hiding them. He was moving them. So how did he tell which was which? I think it's a reasonable question.
As to the visabality question, from the viedo footage that I have seen, it was possible to see a bit in a very limited fasion with the high intensity lights that they were using underwater on the dive gear.
But I'm curious as to how he could tell missile from airliner? The plane exploded. The missile, if there was one, would have exploded first. There aren't a whole lot of recognizable pieces left after that.
Having spent time in the Marines you are no doubt aware of the term 'sea story', and the difference between a sea story and a fairy tale. Now, how did your friend's story start out?
It was on a Chris Matthews show a couple years ago.
It also account for the quick rush to judgement about Richard Jewell.
Assuming you meant John Kerry, I heard him say all the troops in Iraq were stupid the other day. That didn't make him believable in my eyes, nor would anything he had to say about TWA800. Or anything else I can think of for that matter.
I spent 24 years in the military, over 9 of it on active duty. I served on a number of destroyers and frigates, all armed with missiles. I've seen missile shoots in the day, in the night. I've seen missiles go up, I've seen them hit their target, and I've seen what happens when they come down, too. And I'm here to tell you that there flat aren't that many recognizable pieces left when all is said and done. And I'm talking big missiles, Standards and Sea Sparrow. Take a small, portable missile and there is even less left in even smaller parts. And they don't all have a big 'M' on the debris, so you can tell them from the airplane parts. If you want to believe that your friend could recognize dime-sized pieces of missile in and among all the millions of pieces of airplane then go right ahead. Had your buddy spun the same tale to me I'd have given him the same response I'm giving you. I spent enough time around sailors not to be surprised at anything they say.
I also recall Kalstrom saying he thought it was a bomb and we'd know in a short time. I also recall Mr. Hall of the NTSB accidently falling overboard on one of the search ships. My tinfoil hat suggested that it was a warning to him to remain silent about the findings.
I have no idea what was in the water. I do remember that when explosive residue was found it was said to be from a dog training session on that plane. That was never confirmed.
I recall reporters at the site saying that there had been middle east 'chatter' surrounding the downing of the plane.
It wasn't long before all suggestion of a terror attack was a forbidden topic.
Yes, Demille also has a book, I think it is "Nightfall" about flight 800.
"No way could this have been kept a secret."
Yeah, any conspiracy therories which involve dozens of parties are highly suspicious. No compelling evidence.
As to who Clinton wanted dead it was probably the same person who was supposed to be on Ron Brown's plane. As for all the "people in the know" I bet they were tricked into believing that it was an unfortunate accident. Imagine if all the investigators just helped cover up the "accident" and did not even bother to actually look at the physical evidence.
Some but not all. Americans, even American military members, tend to think for themselves. Yes they obey orders, especially immediate orders, but they think for themselves too.
There is no way several ships of sailors, and some missile troops, from whichever service, would keep something like this quiet.
If you read the officers oath, you'll see that there is nothing in there about obeying orders, but rather supporting and defending the Constitution, and fulfilling the duties of their office.
I have absolute faith that one or many of them would have spilled the beans.
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