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On Tuesday, Republicanism, not conservatism, lost
www.unionleader.com ^ | Nov. 9, 2006 | PHILIP KLEIN

Posted on 11/09/2006 12:29:19 AM PST by neverdem

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To: lesser_satan
Its the ideas, stupid. The Democrats won on a message of competence. They made sure the most radical and objectionable parts of the liberal platform never saw the light of day. This is a country in which change happens slowly. America is not a country suited to a leftist revolution, no matter how much the kooks of the Angry Left might wish for it.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

21 posted on 11/09/2006 1:54:01 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem
Conservatism or Republicanism, whatever; the big losers are the unborn who will never be born alive, thanks to this victory by the abortion worshiping dims.
22 posted on 11/09/2006 2:04:36 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (How many babies have we sacrificed to the dims to teach Republican leaders a lesson?)
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To: goldstategop

Yep. I'm staying positive (unusual, considering what a pessimistic cynic I normally am) and looking at this as a golden opportunity: The RINO's are gone. Most of the dems who won are relatively conservative, or at least they ran under that guise. The vast majority of Republicans who won are real conservatives. Conservative ballot initiatives passed for the most part. The current republican emporers have been shown to be naked, inviting a change for the better in our leadership. There is much to be optimistic about.


23 posted on 11/09/2006 2:14:26 AM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: lesser_satan
The one thing I love about Free Republic is the absence of depression after the shellacking we had earlier this week. We just go on with our lives and no one should look to government to do that which we can do for ourselves. If we all live the way we want we will be happier and Pelosi and Reid can do nothing to transform us into victims dependent upon them. That's the key to getting through the next 2 years.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

24 posted on 11/09/2006 2:17:59 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

It's only two years, and I predict not much will happen in that time in Congress. It's too close in the Senate for them to accomplish anything, and hopefully Bush will be more free with the veto pen than he has been. As I've posted many times today, better gridlock than bad accomplishments in government.


25 posted on 11/09/2006 2:28:15 AM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: neverdem

I attribute the loss of Republican power in the congress to a weak president. Bush is not a leader. He does not inspire with is plaintive whinning voice and his inability to articulate a vision. He and his party have been sailing without a compass. They are hopelessly lost.


26 posted on 11/09/2006 2:36:39 AM PST by Godebert
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To: Godebert
This President is NOT a conservative. We very badly need a conservative leader. Someone who can take it to the Democrats without being nasty about it. Just like Ronald Reagan managed to frustrate them.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

27 posted on 11/09/2006 2:38:32 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Agreed.


28 posted on 11/09/2006 2:39:32 AM PST by Godebert
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To: goldstategop

The conservative voter-horse is out of the GOP big tent-barn, too late to shut the door. How will the conservative be enticed back into the big-tent with such diverse wildlife? Gonna use the evil demoncraps as a stick some more? How about a carrot of vigorous law enforcement up their ass?

Either we are equal or we are not. Good people should be armed where they will, with wits and guns. NRA KMA


29 posted on 11/09/2006 2:47:32 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: neverdem
"In 1994, Republicans swept into power by signing a contract with America. That contract has been breached, and unless they want to lose the big prize in 2008, it’s time for that pact to be renewed."

They have not demonstrated that they have it in them. I don't think they do, nor do I think that many of them even believe in that contract.

30 posted on 11/09/2006 2:55:59 AM PST by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: Sam Cree
They believe in the perks of power and many of them will be happy to accept Democrat crumbs off the table. Just like Bob Michel and other forgettable GOP non-entities did the days when the House Democrats ran the show.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

31 posted on 11/09/2006 3:00:02 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
"This President is NOT a conservative"

Within the first year of W's presidency, before 9/11, a socialist (I only know one person who actually admits to being a socialist) friend of mine asked me how I felt the new president was working out. I told him I thought that Bush was turning out to be pretty much further to the left than I could have hoped for. Now, six years later, the guy actually agrees with me.

32 posted on 11/09/2006 3:08:58 AM PST by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: goldstategop

You know, I really think W is a straight shooter who stands up for what he believes in, to hell with the polls. Only trouble is, limited government doesn't seem to be on the list of his beliefs.

I am troubled by what seemed like a submissive demeanor on his part during yesterday's press conference, of which I heard only a little.

I admit to being very discouraged about the whole election debacle.


33 posted on 11/09/2006 3:16:01 AM PST by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: goldstategop

The one thing I love about Free Republic is the absence of depression after the shellacking we had earlier this week.

You must be kidding.

34 posted on 11/09/2006 3:48:12 AM PST by Sarajevo
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To: catholicfreeper

I think in Louisiana all republican incumbants won decisively. Bobby Jindal won with almost 90% of the vote. We got it right for once down here.


35 posted on 11/09/2006 3:48:52 AM PST by Sertorius (A hayseed with no Greek and dam^ proud of it)
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To: goldstategop
Agreed. Republicans have to be the party of ideas.

But also what they can't be is perceived as corrupt, yes men to a questionable war and the tactics to win it, overly religious, and bottom line, not caring about their constituents.

36 posted on 11/09/2006 3:51:23 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: Dustbunny
His 'New Tone in Washington' is what killed this election.

I'm fearful that the lesson GW's learning from this election outcome is to press harder for this "new tone". If he does this, he may end up "killing" the next election.

37 posted on 11/09/2006 3:52:47 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: goldstategop
This President is NOT a conservative.

I agree. Good man, but with very few conservative roots. He appears to be just as ready to support Democrat iniatives as Republican. This is a political problem for the Conservatives remaining in Congress and the "base".

. We very badly need a conservative leader. Someone who can take it to the Democrats without being nasty about it. Just like Ronald Reagan managed to frustrate them.

Agree. The minority leaders in both Houses must be carefully vetted, and the members must be open to change. The new leaders must be able to articulate our message and promote party disciple---including the POTUS. This is our most urgent challenge now.

38 posted on 11/09/2006 4:10:52 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: unspun
American republicanism is conservatism

It used to be, but has since changed into something rather different. I believe the growth of big government and fiscal irresponsibility is clear enough proof of that.

We need time for the Republican party to return to actual conservative policies, rather than what we've been led to.
39 posted on 11/09/2006 5:01:29 AM PST by proseandcons
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Yes, I fear he will apply a 'just get along' format to his last two years.


40 posted on 11/09/2006 5:54:19 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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