1 Dead In Comic Store Shootout

NBC5 ^ | 4 November 2006 | unknown

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“The question is whether or not this store owner had the right to protect himself and to have a weapon,” Birkett said. “He does. He has a (Firearm Owners Identification) card. He's got that right under Illinois law.”

He has right to have a weapon and to protect himself with or without an IL FOI card.

It bugs me no end to hear LEOs and government officials saying that the state confers on a citizen the right to possess arms and to defend himself or herself with deadly force. Those rights are conferred on every man and woman at birth, not by the state upon payment of what amounts to a tax on a right granted by God and not by the state. The 2nd Amendment merely forbids government infringement of that natural right, a restraint which is routinely violated by government at every level from local ordinances to federal law.

I know I'm preaching to the choir, but I have to get this rant off my chest now and then to keep my blood pressure under control.

REMEMBER TO VOTE TODAY, AND REMEMBER WHO OUR FRIENDS ARE AND WHO OUR ENEMIES ARE WHEN YOU MARK THAT BALLOT. When Democrats controlled Congress every session passed new restrictions of some type on guns and/or gun owners, since Republicans took control some of those restrictions, the AWB for instance, have been lifted. Vote for the candidate who will do the least harm to your rights even if you are unhappy with some of the things he or she has done or failed to do on other issues. History teaches that once our RKBA is lost our other rights will soon be lost also.

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california is impossible to get a conceal and carry permit.
I wonder how all the shop owners are able to protect themselves.

[epow]

Not so much so with a good defensive round, aka "evil hollow point which slices and dices like a buzz saw".

I like the Remington 110 grain HP round with the scalloped jacket. It expands rapidly on impact with soft tissue, which minimizes overpenetration and maximizes tissue damage and shock. The 125 grain HP loads are claimed to be the most effective manstoppers, but they're also prone to overpenetrate and cause collateral damage in a populated area. Even worse in that regard are the 158 grain lead solids which will pass through a human torso at it's thickest point and still retain enough velocity to kill or seriously wound innocent bystanders.

The only time I carry a .357 mag is when I take my daily walks in an area where two very aggressive Rottweilers live. On other times when I go armed it's usually with a small .380 pocket pistol that's easier to conceal and lighter to carry. The dogs' owner has been warned by LE to keep them chained or penned up, but shes not very careful in that regard. Not too long ago the dogs treed a powerline worker on a power pole for quite some time until the woman came out and called them off.

If they ever come after me while I'm walking on a public road they won't survive the encounter if I have enough time to aim properly and squeeze off a cylinder of HPs. I love dogs, but I don't intend to be used as a chew toy by those two if I can avoid it.

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Ted should count on ten fingers the countries which DO acknowledge gun rights. Letzee now, there's the U.S., Switzerland..... uh, who else?

In a referendum on a proposed handgun ban law last year the people of Brazil overwhelmingly rejected the proposed law. The government down there may not like the idea of armed citizens, but the people do and Brazil is democratic (with a small d) enough for the people to have their say on the issue.