Fox & Friends (Lieberman may caucus with the GOP)

3 November 2006 | Erik Latranyi

[cgbg]

I really want to like Joe and think he is coming around--then he opens his mouth and spouts the hundred favorite media myths on global warming....

[ruffedgrouse]

"I really want to like Joe and think he is coming around--then he opens his mouth and spouts the hundred favorite media myths on global warming...."


Really, except for Iraq, there's not much daylight between Lieberman and Lamont. It's amazing, too, how moribund the GOP is in Conn. that they have a total nothingburger for a candidate who can't escape single digits.

[nonliberal]

No, not another Zell. Liberalman got a ZERO from the ACU last session.

[Lx]

I was thinking the same thing...

[cgbg]

It is amazing but the Republican governor Rell proposed increasing the tax on one of my favorite products from 20% to 90% in her last budget and the Democratic legislature (many members of which also enjoy this product :-) ) took her proposal out of the tax plan.

Governor Rell may be the stupidest governor in the United States (check her background) and the mere mention of her name sends me into fits of anger that the Republican Party has sunk so low. Don't get me started talking about her fat ugly stupid chief of staff....

The product I mentioned, by the way, is cigars, and for me they are a symbol of freedom and civilization (Churchill, hint, hint).

I know she is running against a slimebag corrupt Rat Mayor who should be wearing orange--face it, this state is a hopeless mess.

[LibLieSlayer]

I believe that we would have far more territory than last time! ;-)

LLS

[beyond the sea]

bump

[aligncare]

...now that I have a few moments to respond more fully:

In the real world, you deal with situations as they exist; not as you wish them to be. Someone said, politics is the art of compromise. Historically, that is true. It doesn't mean you give up your principles - it just means you fight hard to get your agenda through obstacles and resistance to get at least some of what you want to acheive.

It has also been said that politics is the art of persuasion. And that is the "art" in which conservatives should excel. We must continue to persuade our fellow Americans that our ideas are better and more in line with constitutional principles of freedom and liberty, than the democrats' ideas (sorry for the oxymoron).

The Republican running in the Connecticut senate race is so far behind that no amount of effort (realistically speaking) can propel him into office. And, as a matter of national security (my family's security), we need help in the war on terror in congress. If we can't get that help, all of the other important domestic economic, social, fiscal, environmental issues will mean nothing if America begins a slow descent into oblivion. So, I repeat; if a democrat offers sincere help in fighting this ruthless and dangerous enemy - I'll take that help; but continue to fight him on the other issues.

Rush is fond of saying he will retire from radio once everyone in America agrees with him. He should live so long.

[BLS]

I don't know too much about Liebermann other than his run for VP in 2000. Besides Iraq, what does he agree with the Republican base on?

[sam_paine]

Not really surprising, after all, why would Joe caucus with the party that shafted him?

[Man50D]

To borrow a stupid phrase...For me "It's the war on terror, stupid". (not meant for you personally).

No offense taken. That is the most important single issue but the war cannot be fought only abroad. It also has to be fought on the home front, specifically at our borders where terrorists posing as illegal immigrants cane enter.

Lieberman voting against the Secure Fence Act and being in favor of the "Guest Worker" program that essentially gives amnesty to illegal aliens making it easier for terrorists to attack us again on our own soil and defeats the purpose of fighting terrorists overseas. Schlesinger is for the Secure Fence Act along with not implementing a timetable to withdraw our troops before a democracy is in place in Iraq.

[Man50D]

In the real world, you deal with situations as they exist; not as you wish them to be. Someone said, politics is the art of compromise. Historically, that is true. It doesn't mean you give up your principles - it just means you fight hard to get your agenda through obstacles and resistance to get at least some of what you want to acheive.

The real world as it is today would require any Republican who votes for a Socialist such as Lieberman to sacrifice their principles and the security of our country considering he is in favor of Democrats taking control of Congress. The Democrats taking control of Congress would sacrifice the security of our country. Lieberman is in agreement with the Democrats on all other issues other national security. Lieberman would lose his battle for national security because he would be the minority and agree with the Democrats on all other issues. The Republicans will lose everything and gain nothing.

It has also been said that politics is the art of persuasion. And that is the "art" in which conservatives should excel. We must continue to persuade our fellow Americans that our ideas are better and more in line with constitutional principles of freedom and liberty, than the democrats' ideas (sorry for the oxymoron).

You will not be able to persuade a Congress dominated by Democrats. That should have been evident to all Republicans and for the 50 years prior to 1994.

The Republican running in the Connecticut senate race is so far behind that no amount of effort (realistically speaking) can propel him into office.

This refrain implies the only reason a person should vote for a candidate who the voter perceives as the winner and completely disregards the candidates positions on all other issues. That is as dangerous as it is ludicrous.

And, as a matter of national security (my family's security), we need help in the war on terror in congress. If we can't get that help, all of the other important domestic economic, social, fiscal, environmental issues will mean nothing if America begins a slow descent into oblivion.

That won't happen with Lieberman given is inconsistent stance against the war on terror and a Democrat controlled Congress. Schlesinger, who has a consistently strong position on national security, will receive strong support against the war on terror in a Republican dominated Congress. That can only happen if people do not vote for Democrats. Your assumption Schlesinger will have a weaker position on national security escapes me.

So, I repeat; if a democrat offers sincere help in fighting this ruthless and dangerous enemy - I'll take that help; but continue to fight him on the other issues.

Lieberman is not offering sincere help. He would have voted for The Secure Fence Act and be against Amnesty for illegal aliens, some of which could be terrorists, if he were truly sincere. The only difference between Lieberman and Lamont is that Lieberman presents in a much slicker package, enough to fool many Republicans. The only thing Lieberman offers is the same Democrat controlled Congress we had from 1944-1994.

[aligncare]

You make many good and thoughtful points.

I hope to get back to you with what I hope are equally good points. (at work now)

[Reily]

Lieberman will only caucus with the GOP if the GOP has a clear majority. If he is needed as a tie breaker he will caucus with the Demos.

[CWOJackson]

It would be very interesting to see Joe sitting on the majority side of the table...while his old colleges remain on the other side.

[nutmeg]

Connecticut ping!

Please Freepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent Connecticut ping list.

[Puppage]

as some of his Democrat support will go back to Lomant

Perhaps, a few may, but not enough to make a difference. Joe is kick'n Neddy's butt up here and he's gunna walk away in a landslide, IMHO.

[Blackirish]

Part of it it prolly payback to Kerry. ...He's been a personal friend to Liebermann for years but to burnish his credentials for a few moonbats Kerry actively campaigned for Lamont......Kerry just stabs an old friend right in the back.

Kerry is a true scumbag...and paybacks a b!tch.

[right-wingin_It]

I dunno what's gayer...Lamont, or his commercials?

[Kev from Ohio]

Dims have already told Lieberman that he would lose his Chairmanships.

If dims win 51-49, I have a feeling Lieberman will vote for 50-50 and make a deal to get a chair.

Are they allowed to change votes after they caucus?

Say the Dims promise not to do anything to Lieberman, then cut him out, can he then change his vote?