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Ancient Jewish Treasures In Monastery, Book Says
SF Gate ^
| 10-23-2006
| Matthew Kalman
Posted on 10/30/2006 4:37:37 PM PST by blam
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posted on
10/30/2006 4:37:39 PM PST
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blam
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
10/30/2006 4:38:10 PM PST
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blam
To: blam
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posted on
10/30/2006 4:40:31 PM PST
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blam
To: blam
Before I die, I want to tour the basement of the vatican. Even the Papal Suit of Armour would make the trip worthwhile.
Who knows what else is down there.
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posted on
10/30/2006 4:41:25 PM PST
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patton
(Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
To: blam
I thought the Babylonians carried that stuff away. The Persians captured a bunch of it the night Daniel interpreted the writing on the wall.
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posted on
10/30/2006 4:44:19 PM PST
by
carumba
(The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
To: patton
I want to see the Comedy section.
(obscure reference alert)
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posted on
10/30/2006 4:45:08 PM PST
by
Uriah_lost
(We've got enough youth, how about a "fountain of smart")
To: Uriah_lost
'es pining for the fjords...
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posted on
10/30/2006 4:47:10 PM PST
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patton
(Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
To: carumba
Erza bought back the temple treasures with the return of the exiles
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posted on
10/30/2006 4:52:12 PM PST
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Rodm
(Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
To: Rodm
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posted on
10/30/2006 4:52:45 PM PST
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Rodm
(Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
To: patton
I thought the Babylonians carried that stuff away. The items carried off to Babylon were from Solomon's temple. The article refers to "First Century BC" vintage artifacts. The vessels described were probabaly either from Zerubbabel's temple or (less likely) from Herod's temple.
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posted on
10/30/2006 4:54:09 PM PST
by
jboot
(Faith is not a work)
To: jboot
You are probably correct - but there is a lot of stuff down in that basement, I think...
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posted on
10/30/2006 4:57:11 PM PST
by
patton
(Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
To: blam
re: Three Wise Men slept in the caves here after visiting the infant Jesus in Bethlehem
It doesn't help the credibility of an article when the first sentence is in error. The Wise Men didn't get to Jesus until he was older. They did not visit him in Bethlehem. Remember, Mary and Joseph were in Bethlehem for only a short time, just long enough to be counted in the census. They had returned to their home when the Wise Men visited. Herod had sent the Wise Men to Bethlehem, but the star did not lead them there. They were told by Herod to come back and let him know where the Christ child was so that he too could worship him. Right. The Wise Men were warned by God not to return to Herod and went home a different way. When Herod realized he had been snookered by the Wise Men he ordered all the male children up to two years of age killed, thinking that would include the one the Wise Men had said would the king. But God had also warned Joseph of Herod's malicious intent and he took Jesus to Egypt. Each of these steps were the fulfillment of Old Testament prophesy, as was the fact that Joseph and Mary and Jesus would settle in Nazareth upon their return from Egypt. Not that it makes everything in the article suspect, but it tells me the person doing the writing is not well versed in scripture. Nativity scenes always include the Wise Men at the manger, but they were never there, just the shepherds who had been abiding their flocks in the field by night when the angel of the Lord appeared unto them.
To: blam
If you've got Christ, you don't need the trinkets.
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posted on
10/30/2006 5:51:17 PM PST
by
wizr
(Live life with a Passion!)
To: blam
In 1996, Israeli Religious Affairs Minister Shimon Shetreet officially asked the pope to return them. That the pope himself would have no idea whether these historical artifacts were present in Rome, or would deny it if he knew they were present in Rome, beggars belief. I mean this IS the Roman Catholic church, not a secret society???
To: blam
They're in some huge government warehouse. I saw that at the end of
Raider of the Lost Ark.
Seriously, this guy is just pimping his book. If he actually found treasure, he would show it. This is just to stir up interest in his book right up until the "Geraldo vault" moment, then he'll say, "Oops! Robbers got away with it!"
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posted on
10/30/2006 5:59:13 PM PST
by
Alouette
(Psalms of the Day: 44-48)
To: jwparkerjr
It had to have been in a house in the vicinity, or why would the magi have bothered to start asking around there.
To: wizr
If you've got Christ, you don't need the trinkets.
You mean those "trinkets" that were in the House that He called, "My Father's House"? You mean those "trinkets" that were in the House that He he stayed behind to be in at age 12? You mean those "trinkets" that will be in the House described in Ezekiel 40-48?
I am always amazed at some who defame the very things that the Almighty commanded, without even reading the book that they claim as inspired. Read the first 7 chapters of Acts, and Acts 21-22 before you start mocking the things of the Almighty.
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posted on
10/30/2006 6:01:28 PM PST
by
safisoft
(Give me Torah!)
To: blam
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10/30/2006 6:37:50 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
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To: safisoft
Treasures, whether silver, gold or the bones of saints, have nothing to do with Christianity.
Men through the ages have tried to disprove the Bible, and its teachings, only to find that the places and events are true.
But why search for horded artifacts? To prove that God is real?
You only have to search your heart, and accept the love that Christ gives freely, to to know the joy that makes your heart sing.
1 Peter 1:18 (NIV) For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish.
My reply is not an argument. Just a humble submission as food for thought, and prayer.
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10/30/2006 7:23:55 PM PST
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wizr
(Live life with a Passion!)
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10/30/2006 10:40:33 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
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