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MESSAGE FOR STAY AT HOME REPUBLICANS (VANITY)

Posted on 10/28/2006 12:53:49 PM PDT by tomnbeverly

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There are 2 types of cut and run republican in internet conservative forums. The first are the ones who are angry. Not as much angry at the GOP as they are at the conservatives who called them DUers and democrats with a mask. These conservatives have actually allowed personal attacks become more important than their own conservative principals. They are at home rubbing their hands with glee actually hoping for a GOP defeat to punnish their critics online.

The second type are the ones so angry at the GOP that they want to teach the party a lesson by letting the democrats win.

This is a mistake because since campaign finance reform it's moe difficult to go against the incumbant in elections. Furthermore, the democrats tend to pass laws to make it easier for them to maintain power and more difficult for the GOP to get back in.

Also, the dems want to pass a law that will actually replace conservative talk am radio with elevator music. It's called the fairness doctrine.

I have a question for the cut and run republicans.

Given that a democrat defeat will actually make it much easier for Mcain to win the GOP Primary in 2008, enable Pelosi, Hillary and Kerry to make speeches about the pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-tax, pro-embryonic stem cell research MANDATE that Americans gave them on November 7th. Are you willing to concede that democratically elected mandate to them?

41 posted on 10/28/2006 1:43:43 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (If you dont vote on election day, then who are you electing?)
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To: Prime Choice
Isn't it funny how the same people who are bagging on conservatives to hold their nose and vote for their pet RINOs are the same ones who go out of their way to sabotage conservative candidates?

They did it to Toomey - screeching that he was "unelectable" but begged us to support the vile Specter in the general.

I particularly find the haughtiness of their remarks denigrating conservatives annoying, especially. It reads like a New York Times editorial.

42 posted on 10/28/2006 1:45:29 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: mgstarr

"If the Republicans lose either the House or Senate, it is because they've done a PATHETIC job of governing."

BS

The economy is very good.
National Security takes front stage.
Taxes have been reduced.

That is not pathetic. That is good. Lynne Cheney said it better than I can, when grilled by Wolf Blitzer.


43 posted on 10/28/2006 1:45:43 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: zbigreddogz; Extremely Extreme Extremist
Are you even paying attention here? He's not running now because conservatives stood firm and picked Graf over him.

And as for your "will you still be happy if Graf loses?" query, am I correct in assessing you as another one of those RINO-coddling "conservatives are unelectable" screechers?

44 posted on 10/28/2006 1:46:04 PM PDT by Prime Choice (True Conservatives don't vote for Liberals just because they have an 'R' by their name.)
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To: tomnbeverly
Man, you are so full of it I don't know where to begin but your braying about the end of the world as we know it is about as silly as silly can be. Just so you know: I was around when Jimmy Carter was President and we survived him.

Ted Kennedy has been a Senator for all of my adult life, I've survived him.

I bought my first house when Ronald Reagan was President. I got a VA mortgage at 12.5%. Not only did I survive it, I paid it off early.

I survived with Tip O'Neill as Speaker of the house, Thurgood Marshall as a Supreme Court Justice, Maya Angelou as national poet laureate or whatever she was.

My best wage earning years were during the Clinton administration. My worst were during the GW Bush administration. Neither one of them had anything to do with it.

A big deal used to be made about the Democratic Plantation. You don't hear that as much anymore because the Republicans decided that owning a plantation wasn't such a bad idea after all, they just have different slaves tilling their fields.

If the Republicans lose the House and Senate, even if they lose the Presidency I won't lose any sleep over it. If they do it won't be my fault so please quit writing about as if it would be. It would be their fault for abandoning everything that got them elected in the first place. I'm not staying home on election day but I have no quarrel with the people who do. They have every right to be disgusted with what is happening to their party.

45 posted on 10/28/2006 1:46:32 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: backhoe
I heard that in 92, 94, 96, 98, 2000, 2002, 2004, and now today. The Republican elites have heard it too, and keep veering left.

but if I don't see some changes between now and 2008, they had better not count on me again.

46 posted on 10/28/2006 1:46:52 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

We have trained them to ignore us.


47 posted on 10/28/2006 1:47:16 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
They did it to Toomey - screeching that he was "unelectable" but begged us to support the vile Specter in the general.

Likewise with Schwarzenegger over McClintock. The same people who did nothing but bag on Tom as "unelectable" are now insisting that we should support their Kennedy(R). Bah. They can't be bothered to support the real principles of the party, so I honestly can't put much stock in their demand for blind loyalty.

I particularly find the haughtiness of their remarks denigrating conservatives annoying, especially. It reads like a New York Times editorial.

Indeed. It's as irritating as it is condescending. Rather than take our grievances seriously, they choose to trivialize and marginalize them. And then, when they know that they've really shot themselves in the foot, they start gearing up to blame their failures on everyone but themselves.

It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

48 posted on 10/28/2006 1:50:07 PM PDT by Prime Choice (True Conservatives don't vote for Liberals just because they have an 'R' by their name.)
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To: Prime Choice

Umm, no, actually, you are obviously ignorant.

KOLBE DIDN'T RUN FOR RE-ELECTION, HE RETIRED.

And no, I'm merely asking a question, because he is likely to lose, not because he's a Conservative, but because he's a one-issue candidate who didn't have the broad support of most Republicans and Conservatives. Matter of fact, considering he had run before, the 42% of the vote he got in the primary was pathetic.


49 posted on 10/28/2006 1:50:19 PM PDT by zbigreddogz (`)
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To: Spirochete

Well I was thinking about posting a vanity on this. So let me post it on this vanity and see if you particularly would answer. I sat down the other day to list reasons to vote for the GOP this election or sit out.

Reasons to Vote GOP:

1. The War on Terror.
2. Taxes/the economy
3. Judges
4. The fence
5. Cultural issues
6. Page preditors are thrown out rather than eulogized.

Reasons to sit it out:

1. Not enough effort on the border.
2. Spending.

Am I missing anything on either the plus or minus list?

Are any of my plusses not plusess? [They are not the only positives I see, but the one I would think any conservative would agree with.]

Would anyone believe the Dims would be better on the border or spending?


50 posted on 10/28/2006 1:52:08 PM PDT by JLS
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To: tomnbeverly

I just returned from EV here in Texas. I heard at least three "assistants" for the electronic voting tell voters to press the second choice to vote straight Dem. Granted, they likely knew these folks from the primaries. It still sounded bad.


51 posted on 10/28/2006 1:52:22 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Dude, nobody's staying home, OK?

Dude, you are wrong. Of the ten, or so, conservative friends that I have living close by, two (that would be 20 percent) are staying home and they can't be convinced otherwise. They say that they want democrats to take control so that republicans get scared straight. Of course history shows that that is not what works - money works.

Stop with the head in the sand mentality. Every election the rock solid liberals stay home or vote Nader or some other clown, handing the elections to republicans. Conservatives are trying their best this election to hand the elections back.

52 posted on 10/28/2006 1:56:10 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: zbigreddogz
That is correct. It's the fault of idiotic, egotistical a$$hats who would rather whine then get half of what they want.

So we should just sit back and enjoy getting screwed?

As long as the Republican in office has no principles and is nearly identical to the Rat on the issues, it's OK because he has the magical R next to him?

Riddle me this: Why can't the Republican just act like Republicans? Low taxes, limited government, strong defense, traditional values...remember those? These are all the tried-and-true formulas that makes the GOP a winner. There's no need for any Republican to "move to the middle" or "become an enlightened moderate" or "appeal to independents."

Why is that so hard for the GOP to understand? Now you know why they're called the Stupid Party, right?

53 posted on 10/28/2006 1:57:11 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: humblegunner

LOL!!! The grammar police have arrived.


54 posted on 10/28/2006 1:57:16 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Cobra64

And I love this little item every time I see it.


55 posted on 10/28/2006 1:58:28 PM PDT by jaycee
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To: tomnbeverly
g. Implement laws for the Fairness doctrine which of course will require liberal media coverage including talk radio and TV for any opposition point of view.

Your heart might be in the right place, but your priorities are backwards. You value entertainment, I could care less about talk radio and haven't had a TV since 1999. OTOH, I own 25 round magazines that the democrats would like to ban again.

56 posted on 10/28/2006 1:59:23 PM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I understand.

I give President Bush some credit for doing what he said he was going to do, which was work with the Donks.

But I take credit away when I consider that he has not gone to playing hardball, and he has let the libs trash him, his administration and his policies without fighting back.

Having class is one thing. Laying down and repeatedly taking it up the rear with little or no protest is another.

In particular...can you refresh my memory? Didn't The President give the chairmanship of a key committee to the Dems as a gesture, and got stabbed in the back as a result? THAT should have ended the Kumbayah moment.


57 posted on 10/28/2006 2:00:17 PM PDT by rlmorel (The US Media...Where you get Million Dollar Words From people with a Ten Cent Fart for a brain.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
LOL!!! The grammar police have arrived.

I invented the comma and am downright nasty about collecting my royalties.

Seriously, it makes the forum look bad when folks write like kids.

58 posted on 10/28/2006 2:03:24 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: taxcontrol

You mean this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fENTx9gMB4w&mode=related&search=


59 posted on 10/28/2006 2:03:41 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (If you dont vote on election day, then who are you electing?)
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To: tomnbeverly
I was telephone polled the other day. When asked if I was satisfied or not with Bush's job I said I was mostly dissatisfied. Does that mean I will vote for Democrats? You have to be fricking joking. Just because Bush's poll numbers are down, does not mean conservatives will vote liberal. All this is a MSM plot to lower turn out. Period!!
60 posted on 10/28/2006 2:03:53 PM PDT by hophead ("A questions not really a question, if you know the answer too.")
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