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L.A. County union workers win largest pay increase in decades (15.5% pay increse & health benefits)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 10/22/06 | Troy Anderson

Posted on 10/22/2006 8:56:46 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 10/22/2006 8:56:48 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Are these the kinds of increases YOU are getting in YOUR position in the PRIVATE sector?

The tentative three-year contract, which must be approved by the supervisors and ratified by members of Service Employees International Union, Local 660, would give most union members raises totaling up to 15.5 percent.

The contract also calls for a 10 percent increase in the county's contribution to employee health plans and a benefit that would require the county to pay $75 to $375 a month to help employees pay for child care.

The contract would boost some workers' pay as much as 30 percent and union officials hailed the deal as key to helping the county retain and hire more nurses and help lift workers who now qualify for food stamps out of poverty.


2 posted on 10/22/2006 8:58:05 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is the Fantasy half of the equation/ingredients that make Liberals.
Was the question ever raised--Where is the money coming from?
Of course, the answer is THE TAXPAYERS.
Was the idea that ILLEGAL ALIENS do not pay taxes, and that Illegal aliens are a considerable fraction of L A's Population ever mentioned?

So, in their mind, you just award a wage, and there is this well that never goes dry and has unlimited capacity where officials can draw from for wages.

NO wonder 25% of of Los Angeles hs moved to another State


3 posted on 10/22/2006 9:06:15 AM PDT by radar101 (LIBERALS = Hypocrisy and Fantasy)
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To: NormsRevenge

In a few years, you will have to choose which Civil War you want to start first, the one between the legal Americans and the illegal invading aliens, or the one between the private sector which is getting their salary cut or getting laid off, losing their retirement and health care, and watching their taxes, local, state and federal, go out of sight, and the public sector employees who are getting fat raises and cost-of-living adjustments, better health care for life, and cushy retirements, all paid for by those luckless private sector losers.

And the Republicans and Democrats just don't give a damn.


4 posted on 10/22/2006 9:12:19 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: NormsRevenge
An across the board 15% merit increase. That's an interesting concept.
5 posted on 10/22/2006 9:15:23 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Dancing through life like a street mime with tourettes syndrome.)
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To: nmh

$375 a month for CHILD CARE? Don't have them if you can't afford them.

That is unsustainable. SOMEONE is going to have to pay for this, Guess who? You can bet rich Liberals will protect their tax loopholes.
What's laughable is that the very people "celebrating" and anticipating these lovely wage increases won't be so happy when they realize they won't see any of it. They will be taxed away.
Democrats will never learn that this kind of sillyness is inflationary. The only way to raise the standard of living is to lower it's costs, rather than to keep asking for more money, which in turn comes from increased taxes, raising the cost of living. An endless cycle which began when nanny state idealists began raising taxes to pay for the government institutions which eat up most of the money and help no-one.


6 posted on 10/22/2006 9:17:24 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary (Bukhari:V1B1N6 “Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.”)
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To: NormsRevenge

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship." - Alexander Tyler


7 posted on 10/22/2006 9:17:52 AM PDT by TeenagedConservative
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To: TeenagedConservative

amen


democracy in america...de toqueville (?) to paraphrase, america will cease to be a great power when her people begin to vote for themselves government largesse.

'the truth is out there"


8 posted on 10/22/2006 9:24:12 AM PDT by ripley
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To: TeenagedConservative

Exactly why we have a constitutional Republic. The only thing democratic is the election process.
Private enterprise is supposed to provide the needs of the people. Government was never supposed to get into private business, just handle the nations business and national security.

I can see what the next demand is from this particular articel. Daycare space. They will be screaming that there aren't any government run daycares to begin early socialist indoctrination.
Then they will be demanding more money because $375 a month isn't enough to pay for expensive, government run daycare.


9 posted on 10/22/2006 9:32:19 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary (Bukhari:V1B1N6 “Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.”)
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To: nmh

After taxes, I got $8.50 a week. It could have been worse, 25% of the staff got laid off.

This is just another example of government workers living in a fantasy world.

The contract is nothing but a payoff to get them to vote for Angelides for governor.


10 posted on 10/22/2006 9:35:34 AM PDT by MediaMole (9/11 - We have already forgotten.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Simply breathing is merit enough for the bureaucrats.

I have to deal with county bureaucrats often, and I can say, I have never seen such an inefficient, wasteful organization in my lifetime.

As an example, almost 300 new cel phones were stolen from the water department. They did not report the phones stolen to the cel phone carriers, and paid the bills on each of those phones for 2 years.


11 posted on 10/22/2006 9:35:50 AM PDT by ivy (Ivy's ex bf)
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To: radar101
There was a philosopher, can't remember who he was, that said the average life of a democracy because once the population realized it could vote itself vast sums of money from the Nations Treasury, that nation was doomed to economic collapse.

Well, we are a representative republic, but I think it applies. And I also think we are starting to see it happening. This deal, politicians giving themselves raises, and people voting for politicians and issues that give them more entitlements.

I hope I am wrong but if things do not change this nation will eventually hit an economic wall.
12 posted on 10/22/2006 9:39:29 AM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: MPJackal

Avg life is 200 years. oops.


13 posted on 10/22/2006 9:40:24 AM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: MediaMole
"The contract is nothing but a payoff to get them to vote for Angelides for governor."

No doubt. But no worries. They'll raise the money to pay for this. SIN taxes are always popular and easy to sneak in budgets. Booze, cigarette and gas taxes, licence fee increases, and other regalatory fees are always a handy tool that makes it appear that general tax increases are being held down, but these back door taxes can add a lot to the general revenue cookie jar.

14 posted on 10/22/2006 9:44:11 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary (Bukhari:V1B1N6 “Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.”)
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To: NormsRevenge

Why does the county hire nurses?


15 posted on 10/22/2006 9:45:39 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God we trust. All others we monitor.)
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To: MPJackal; NormsRevenge
Here is one author's take on the quote concerning democracy and spending.
16 posted on 10/22/2006 9:46:47 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: ripley

See post#16.


17 posted on 10/22/2006 9:48:03 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Medicaid, county run nursing homes, schools, public health services.


18 posted on 10/22/2006 9:48:27 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary (Bukhari:V1B1N6 “Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.”)
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To: Old Professer

ref. voting oneself government largesse....

think it was de toqueville in "Democracy in America"

a number of the founding fathers might have said the same....not sure.....one might check the federalist papers.


thanks for your post. going to make me read some more.


19 posted on 10/22/2006 10:17:23 AM PDT by ripley
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To: NormsRevenge
"We believe this is sustainable."

We believe in the union, the worker almighty, creator of overtime wages and more ..

and to the contract for which it exists, unbroken, till we decide to .. screw you, and to you and to it.

Yep .. it's a religion .. services once a month at the hall or bar .. bring your tithe.

20 posted on 10/22/2006 10:22:25 AM PDT by knarf (Islamists kill each other ... News wall-to-wall, 24/7 .. don't touch that dial.)
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