Posted on 10/17/2006 5:11:25 AM PDT by John Carey
How about Ortiz-Shamrock III?
It was a civilized, pleasurable way for men and women to interact. The attraction between a man and a woman was the focus of the dance -- not raw, vulgar sexal intercourse.
The truly humorous thing about the above is that the waltz was an absolutely scandalous dance when it first arrived. Many a sermon was preached against the demon waltz and its sensualizing effect on young people.
The Harvey Girls is a movie that had more to do with the 1940s media than the reality of the 1800s.
You can't have a proper wedding reception without beer on tap and an open bar. It's not civilized.
GOOD for that principal, and I pray he gets some rational parents together to draw up some guidelines.
I'm starting to feel the same way about Shamrock as I felt about George Foreman. I like the guy so much I hope he sticks to retirement because I don't want to see him get hurt. He's just a guy past his fighting prime now. It happens to all of us.
I'm a huge Shamrock fan, also. After the 2nd fight, most of my interest in the matchup vanished and like you, I wished Shamrock would just hang it up. Super athlete and an alltime great UFCer, but past his prime.
The matches were particularly hard on me because I dislike Tito Ortiz so much. Great fighter, I wouldn't take that away from him. I just don't like Ortiz's (public) personality.
You should have seen the smile on my face when Couture spanked his arse, LITERALLY! ;-)
Good point and one is inclined to suspect the gummint skools are a mighty force behind this anomaly. Instead of producing future generations of youngsters that can think and act on their own, they are producing good little followers. Ever take a look at even a grade school curriculum? NO free time to speak of. NO time to socialize. NO time to do what kids are prone to do....blow off steam in a manner they choose. Everything is regimented from the time they walk in the doors til the time they leave(and afterward in many cases). They aren't encouraged to do anything on their own. Following the rules is what they are being trained to do.
Question is, how has this contributed to the unusual and unacceptable behavior when on free time? Best guess; parental authority, even from those that still want to exercise it, has been usurped by the state. The state, as we've observed in socialist nations, is not very good at raising kids, or controlling markets, or creating jobs, or building homes, or.........
When a society ceases, for whatever reasons, to run and police itself, it's the beginning of the end. So call a lawyer...
I like it when they try to run.
Things changed fast in the last 4 years of the 60's. 68 & 69 were nothing like the innocent 61 & 62 years were. Back in your day, "cool" was something only Beatniks said, by the end of the 60's, "cool" was something everyone was trying to be.
Yup.
Skools, TVeee, Hollyweird, Madison Avenue & last but not least *parents* {spit}.
Took more than one turd to sour the bowl, lots of crap was required to make the cess pool. ;^)
If there's any "good news" [I think :o) ] in all this, it'd have to be we're old enough to recall a much different time, a seemingly simpler time & one not as corrupt.
While some will say it's a curse *I* say it's my saving Grace. ;^)
"Instead of producing future generations of youngsters that can think and act on their own, they are producing good little followers."
"Consumers" FGS, consumers.
God Bless 'em. {g}
"Ever take a look at even a grade school curriculum?"
Nope, can't say I have.
"NO free time to speak of."
Speak of what?
"Rap"?
"NO time to socialize."
Form a "gang".
"NO time to do what kids are prone to do..."
Shoot the place up.
"...blow off steam in a manner they choose."
Although the mode isn't of their own choosing methinks they blow off plenty of steam, it's just controlled steam. Not of *water* ether but rather some other unknown, albeit inert, gas. :o)
Seen the earrings, *music* videos, cars w/ fart cans et al and best of all the weird clothing which aspires to make 'em *look* like they're from the ghetto. Even though they live miles from anything remotely *like* a slum?
Yes my friend and the list of abnormalities goes on & on & on.
I said it before & I'll say it again: I don't get it & I thank God I don't.
"Everything is regimented from the time they walk in the doors til the time they leave(and afterward in many cases). They aren't encouraged to do anything on their own."
HA!!
Hardly the "Army of One", huh.
"Following the rules is what they are being trained to do."
That's gotta be right outa a comedy skit, FGS.
Please say you pinched it from a laugh track, please? {g}
"Question is, how has this contributed to the unusual and unacceptable behavior when on free time?"
Well LOOK at what they do on "free time".
Look at *what* the pop-culture vultures aim at.
Then (as hard as it might be) simply believe your eyes, cuz' they don't lie. ;^)
"Best guess; parental authority, even from those that still want to exercise it, has been usurped by the state."
Awwww c'mon now for chrissakes that's not a guess, best of otherwise FGS.
That, my friend, is a fact.
"The state, as we've observed in socialist nations, is not very good at raising kids, or controlling markets, or creating jobs, or building homes, or..."
How very true, nicely said.
Doesn't take a close examination to reveal whateverinthehell the clowns have said they've done clashes with what is.
One gets an entirely different picture of what's really happened/ing by merely looking at "the product".
After the product's been rejected it's a good time to gage the success the ederkaters have actually had.
If instilling a "follow the rules" mentality was their goal well forgetaboutit, their effort(s) have been a miserable, pathetic failure.
Or has it? ;^)
"When a society ceases, for whatever reasons, to run and police itself, it's the beginning of the end."
Yup.
Following that thought I was watching a program on the Hitler Channel chronicling what it took to put a man on the moon the other evening.
The "Project Manager" was often interviewed and he told of a million problems from A to Z needing to be solved -- beyond guesses and/or theory -- before a rocket containing our precious guys ever left the planet.
A lot of what was said blew me away but when the program was over?
All I was left thinking was, "They could never do it again".
Which curiously enough is exactly what I've been left thinking after viewing one of the old classic motion pictures, also. David Burke could write a whole new episode for his "Connections" series based solely on what society could never do today that society did yesterday.
A crazy juxtaposition I'm almost certain even wise ol' David never thought about.
"So call a lawyer..."
HA!!
Or turn on the TV, must be a game starting sometime.
...*soon*. ;^)
Hahahaha! I had to reread where you said "try" to run. Nice visual!
I am glad I won't be around in 30 years when the illegals finish off America. Their culture is even more polluted than ours : )
Things changed fast in the last 4 years of the 60's. 68 & 69 were nothing like the innocent 61 & 62 years were. Back in your day, "cool" was something only Beatniks said, by the end of the 60's, "cool" was something everyone was trying to be.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
I agree completely, and I'm so thankful to have grown up a bit earlier. The stuff we did that was way over the limits was fairly innocent by today's standards, and by the time the later 60's hit, I was raising a family and only observed those years as a spectator who was glad not to be participating.
We did say "cool", however, and the only beatniks I ever saw were at coffee houses that we visited as high school students to see what a beatnik looked like. We thought they were very strange, by the way. Surfing had taken hold here in So. Calif., though I wasn't part of that crowd. My question is: What does a kid do next after having simulated sex at a school dance, the real thing on the dance floor? I'm so sad for these kids, they've seen and done it all by the time they hit 20. The girls seem to be emulating porn stars, and the boys apparently expect same. Maybe, with luck, the next rebellion will have to be to go conservative.
That's the most troublesome aspect of this whole "dumbing down" mess. If I didn't know better I would say the PTB are attempting to level the playing field ;^)
WHY JOHNNY CAN'T READ will be nothing compared to "Why Johnny can't think". The feminazis have scored big in pulik skools.
The bottom line? Talking and writing(touchy-feely) have been elevated to a level above thinking and doing.
Would like to palaver more, but gotta run for now.
"I know what you mean about weddings. That is why it is tough to have a one size fits all reception."
You think that's tough, try finding one-size-fits-all bridesmaid's dresses! :-P
Our local police like that style of dress on the young criminals.
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