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Barone: Don't Expect a Political Realignment
RealClearPolitics ^ | October 16, 2006 | Michael Barone

Posted on 10/15/2006 10:17:28 PM PDT by RWR8189

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1 posted on 10/15/2006 10:17:29 PM PDT by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

The Civil War was not much of a realignment event. The nation had already realigned prior to the Civil War during the decade preceding the war. The most dramatic realignment in U.S. history was actually in the 1894 midterm election, when the Democrats were demolished for a loss of 116 seats.


2 posted on 10/15/2006 10:30:55 PM PDT by AntiGuv (o) ™ (o)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; Timesink; VPMWife78; Starman417; ajolympian2004; Gracey; Alamo-Girl; RottiBiz; ...
FoxFan ping! (article by Michael Barone, Fox News political analyst)

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my FoxFan list. *Warning: This can be a high-volume ping list at times.

3 posted on 10/15/2006 10:33:07 PM PDT by nutmeg (National security trumps everything else.)
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To: RWR8189
"Why is Bush's second-term job approval so much lower than Bill Clinton's even though the economy has been in similarly good shape during both periods? Relentless, lying Democrat "mainstream" dinosaur media propaganda about Iraq. Katrina."

There. Fixed it.

4 posted on 10/15/2006 10:37:41 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RWR8189

Others have said that if the Dems take control of Congress this year, their majority will be short-lived, much like the GOP congressional victories in 1952.


5 posted on 10/15/2006 10:42:52 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: AntiGuv
Funny that you mention the Civil War, as I sometimes see another one on the horizon. The current hatred, bile and acrimony in politics is beyond anything I've witnessed in my lifetime (I'm 46) and seem to be leading to worse. I remember reading that congressmen were beaten by fellow members on the House floor just prior to the Civil War. Such a thing wouldn't surprise me too much today.
6 posted on 10/15/2006 10:47:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Second to none!)
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To: Lancey Howard

Hear, hear.


7 posted on 10/15/2006 10:47:31 PM PDT by BurrOh (Kerry, honored member of War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City)
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To: Lancey Howard

Plus the fact that along with the lying reports from the drive-by media .. the dem pollsters were using 11-14% over-weighting of dems in order to get the numbers they wanted - Bush at 39%. However, something amazing has happened lately .. the dems are now using 16% more dems than repubs - so what does that tell you ..?? It tells you that our numbers have gone up to the point that the dems have had to use even more dems in order to get the skewed polls that they want.

Remember too .. Bush's personal rating is 61% - that's pretty high for a 39% job disapproval. That's why I don't believe their stinking polls.


8 posted on 10/15/2006 10:50:30 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: RWR8189
The Democrats are out of ideas.

They are dinosaurs based in the past; and demographically ALL of their strongholds are under attack.

Northeast Liberals: people are leaving and all the population growth is in red-state South and West. This will cause a shift in 2012 and later elections. Also some eyes have been opened in NYC and NJ due to 9/11 .

Blacks and Latinos (that are here legally) are entering the middle class (becoming Republican) and are concerned about moral values (becoming Republican).

The hippies and Me-generation of yesteryear aborted their kids or never had any t o begin with - while the more conservative and Republican folks got pregnant and were far less likely to have abortions. In case no-one told Nancy Pelosi: gays and lesbians can only recruit, not reproduce/

In a dangerous world, with NK exploding nukes, the nation will turn to those who are more responsible with national security. This means Republicans.

My prediction: the Republicans hold onto majorities.

9 posted on 10/15/2006 10:53:08 PM PDT by ikka
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To: My2Cents

Do you believe that?


10 posted on 10/15/2006 10:54:14 PM PDT by Howlin (Why Won't Nancy Pelosi Let Louis Freeh Investigate the Page Scandal?)
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To: defconw


PING


11 posted on 10/15/2006 10:56:09 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: ikka
Not liking the rooster, the voters elect the fox to watch over the henhouse?
12 posted on 10/15/2006 11:03:12 PM PDT by raftguide
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To: RWR8189
Its been my view that if the Democrats win control of Congress, it will be tenuous and fleeting. Long term demographic trends are working against them and they don't have any positive agenda. The only thing that unites them is they hate Bush and he won't be President in 2009. All they can do is try to destroy the last two years of his presidency but it will end up destroying them if they press ahead with impeachment and the moonbat wish list.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Palelogus

13 posted on 10/15/2006 11:05:06 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: RWR8189

Bush can and should veto any nonsense passed by congress, should the dems get a majority.

And the dems would have nothing approaching veto override numbers.

Gridlock; which often is a good thing, since so much of what comes before congress winds up costing taxpayers money.


14 posted on 10/15/2006 11:23:21 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: CyberAnt
the dem pollsters were using 11-14% over-weighting of dems in order to get the numbers they wanted - Bush at 39%. However, something amazing has happened lately .. the dems are now using 16% more dems than repubs

Exactly! Not only they overweight national average, but they apply the same overweight in local / regional races where polls wouldn't even be close if they used local / regional Dems/Repubs ratios and "likely" voters...

So what if in San Francisco or New York or Los Angeles or New Jersey Dems have 40% advantage - they are already in Dems hands, so why should it affect other less dense local / state races where Dems have a deficit, yet they still overweight those polls with national averages.

Even Rasmussen uses about 5% overweighting, and I don't think he adjusts the numbers by localities.

Much more depends on turnout, and that's why I believe that "polls" are just one part in the overall strategy to suppress GOP turnout, along with steady stream of negative "news" and books and interviews. Another dishonest use of "polls" is so "journalists" instead of reporting and focusing on facts or ideas can make statements or ask questions like:
"... but the polls show..."
"... but American people say..."
"... but the opinion of majority of Americans is..."

As an aside: how can we revert the party colors back to normal as they were pre-2000 election? This cruel joke of GOP=red, Dems=blue still gives me a cognitive dissonance. Can we start with asking Fox and some other reasonable organisations to go back to traditional colors?

15 posted on 10/16/2006 12:02:54 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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Rush has been complaining for years that the drive-by uses polls to create a story .. instead of reporting the news.

I don't care about the colors .. except that "true Blue" is better than "dead Red". Is that the problem ..??

CA - in their state map for 2000 (I think) did use the reverse colors and gave Bush-Blue. It was a shock at first until I realized they had reversed the colors.


16 posted on 10/16/2006 12:08:25 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: RWR8189

When Barone says it's "likely" that Dems will take the House, that makes me worry for the first time. I think he is the smartest, best-informed political analyst on the scene.


17 posted on 10/16/2006 12:47:15 AM PDT by karnage
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To: RWR8189

Translation: This election will be all about turnout.


18 posted on 10/16/2006 1:47:15 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of "dependence on government"!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think we win in a civil war with the left, unless they can marshal the gangbangers because that is the only faction among their ranks who have any firepower.

We got the guns..........and the ammo.


19 posted on 10/16/2006 2:11:58 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: karnage

Yep. But if I had to pick, I'd rather have the senate for the long haul. I want the judges.


20 posted on 10/16/2006 2:14:01 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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