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Porsche chief's disdain for America
The American Thinker ^ | 10-11-06 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 10/11/2006 4:15:03 AM PDT by Renfield

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To: DungeonMaster

Ok, we´ll send our "unwilling to integrate Muslims" to you instead. Deal?


81 posted on 10/11/2006 6:13:53 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: xcamel

What's an M4?

:)

Anyway, proper sportscars are mid-engined rear wheel drive beasts that will be 1/4 mile ahead of you before you even realize that you've been passed.

:)


82 posted on 10/11/2006 6:14:17 AM PDT by BritExPatInFla
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To: King of Florida

S4 Cab > 4000lbs, M3 = 3500lbs

Sports cars do not weight 4000+lbs.

You can bet an M3 would smoke S4 (cab or otherwise) around any track you can name.


83 posted on 10/11/2006 6:15:31 AM PDT by ElTiante
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To: Leo Farnsworth

I drove one (a Boxster S) for four years and 50K miles with only oil and filter changes, and even only three of those (every 15K miles). Contrary to what you say, it was a terrifically well-built car that required close to no maintenance. I had to give it up after my wife got pregnant. (sobs gently)


84 posted on 10/11/2006 6:16:26 AM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: Michael81Dus

Please don't...


85 posted on 10/11/2006 6:16:48 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: DB

Oh, I´d rather send them back. I think that "mulit-cultural" societies cannot exist peacefully. Different ethnic groups start clashes when one or the other thinks they´re in a more powerful position, as history has taught us. So, either these different cultures form a new culture with their own identity (sort of like what happened in the US) or one of these groups assimilates, or we´ll have some trouble.


86 posted on 10/11/2006 6:21:49 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: Renfield
I think it's important to note that many American CEOs obviously have the same level of contempt for their own country. Ted Turner springs to mind.

Regards, Ivan

87 posted on 10/11/2006 6:22:45 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: absolootezer0
Not exactly.

They are exceptionally capable high speed cruisers.

Tremendous braking and handling.

Esclades are nothing more than a Suburban with a face lift and a more powerful engine.
88 posted on 10/11/2006 6:24:20 AM PDT by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really not Leo Farnsworth)
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To: Michael81Dus

We've all got some trouble coming our way.

Different reasons on the small scale, same reasons on the larger scale.


89 posted on 10/11/2006 6:24:38 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Leo Farnsworth

And more plastic.


90 posted on 10/11/2006 6:25:28 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Michael81Dus
And you can have a silencer on your rifle so as to not disturb the peace in the neighboring area.
91 posted on 10/11/2006 6:26:01 AM PDT by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really not Leo Farnsworth)
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To: ElTiante
From the 0-60 for Factory Stock Vehicles pages:

2004 Audi S4 4.9
2001 BMW M3 Convertible (U.S.) 5.4

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html

Admittedly, the M3 probably moved up a tick or two in that three year difference, and you probably would have to add almost a half second to the S4 time since it does not indicate that it's the convertible S4, but anything doing that kind of time 0-60 is definitely not your father's Oldsmobile.

92 posted on 10/11/2006 6:28:28 AM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: Renfield
we Americans are barely out of the backwoods with our rifles.

At least most of us can spot an ugly car when we see it. Porsche must be a little miffed after losing the Sebring and Le Mans endurance races to an American car powered by a Ford engine.

93 posted on 10/11/2006 6:28:33 AM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: King of Florida
At 100,000 miles it is a different story.

All engines by federal law (emissions) really need to last for 50,000 miles with no maintenance.

Don't get me wrong - I think Porsches are a fantastic car - I have been over 110 MPH inmany of them and it is a relaxing vehicle at that speed (try that in an Esclade).
94 posted on 10/11/2006 6:31:53 AM PDT by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really not Leo Farnsworth)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

That's a good point. The U.S.A as a nation is about 100 years older than Germany.


95 posted on 10/11/2006 6:32:08 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: King of Florida

No question, the S4 (sedan or cab) is a fast car, but it's not a sports car. The Bentley Continental is a fast car too, but it's not a sports car either.

Fast alone does not make a car a sports car.


96 posted on 10/11/2006 6:32:10 AM PDT by ElTiante
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To: ElTiante
But the weight of the ego behind the wheel in the beemer slows it down to the point of being laughable.

:-O

Oh.. and BMW got their butts beat but good by a Diesel powered Audi this year.

97 posted on 10/11/2006 6:35:03 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Renfield
He bases his whole idea that Europe is better on the fact that Europe is older. Pretty weak.
98 posted on 10/11/2006 6:35:04 AM PDT by ryan71 (bAS)
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To: Renfield
"we Americans are barely out of the backwoods with our rifles."

He's wrong about that, that Americans are still a self reliant people, but I wish it were still true. Also, on that note, I have heard it posited, correctly IMO, that the American soldier, coming from a free country was more able to think for himself than the German soldier. This was a decided advantage when the command structure fell apart. A contributing factor to the ass kicking we gave them not too long ago.

I note that Wiedeking brings out the old line about a widening gap between the rich and the poor. There is only one way to keep that gap constant and that is to limit wealth creation. Considering that wealth creation is the only thing that makes things better for the "poor," its limitation would not seem advisable, though it explains many of the problems of socialist societies.

99 posted on 10/11/2006 6:39:59 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: Sam Cree

Who cares what a German automaker thinks about America. Do they care what Lee Iacocca would have to say about Germany?
As for the cars, I've owned American, Japanese, and European cars over the past 30+ years. IMHO, European cars are overrated and overpriced. I'll never buy a Euro car again when there are better choices on the market.


100 posted on 10/11/2006 6:45:11 AM PDT by seamusnh
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