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'Five pillars of Islam' taught in public school
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | October 10, 2006 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 10/10/2006 3:46:48 AM PDT by Man50D

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To: savedbygrace
"Why is it okay to teach Islam? Because it isn't a religion. It's a governmental system of subjugation.

Amen.

61 posted on 10/11/2006 8:08:05 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: ChessExpert
Teachers CARE and are beyond reproach.

And don't forget underpaid as well.

62 posted on 10/11/2006 8:10:07 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: tutstar
I think it is so ironic too that Massachusets is now the most liberal (matter of opinion)of states.,/P>

That's debatable. I vote for Connecticut.
63 posted on 10/11/2006 8:37:51 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Tired of Taxes; SJackson; wagglebee; Alouette; Salem; ExTexasRedhead

This is outrageous. While the public schools of World War II were not at all bastions of academic excellence, they would never have taught Shinto or Nazi tennants to their students.


64 posted on 10/11/2006 9:53:28 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Nihilism is at the heart of Islamic culture)
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Christianity cannot even be mentioned in schools, yet our children are being forced to learn about how "wonderful" Islam is when in reality it is nothing more than a barbaric death cult bent on killing us all.

65 posted on 10/11/2006 9:57:51 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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66 posted on 10/11/2006 10:18:14 AM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Nathan Zachary
9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals...

Where the hell is the 9th District? San Francisco or Mecca? The "9th District" explains a lot of this article.
67 posted on 10/11/2006 10:28:19 AM PDT by jackieaxe (Unsourced reporting is not reporting but a lie or a manipulation)
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To: gotribe
Simply stolen from previous cultures.

Many Islamic inventions and discoveries were ripped off from Hindu and Persian slaves and subjects. And from the Hindu and Persian cultures they conquered. Algebra and the zero come to mind

68 posted on 10/11/2006 11:31:18 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: Man50D

They're just training the kids to be accepting of their future one-world government, which will be Islam-based.


69 posted on 10/11/2006 11:35:06 AM PDT by AK2KX
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To: Man50D

If it undermines Christianity and Western culture it is not only acceptable, but is mandated by the State.

These clowns are so blind they are incapable of seeing the lie in their consecutive statements:
>"I believe we're not here to promote or advocate either religion or politics,"
- "However, we do have an obligation to inform students of what is going on in our world today and how history and culture have affected that world."<


70 posted on 10/11/2006 11:41:16 AM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: petercooper

This sign should be posted at the Hamtramck, MI city limits..

71 posted on 10/11/2006 2:38:12 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi..)
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To: Man50D

don.grotting@nyssa.k12.or.us

I just sent Grotting the following e-mail:

What Arab Civilization?
This letter was sent to Carly Fiorina, CEO of Hewlett Packard Corporation, in response to a speech given by her on September 26, 2001.






November 7, 2001

Carly Fiorina
Hewlett-Packard
3000 Hanover Street
Palo Alto, CA 94304-1185

Dear Madame Fiorina:

It is with great interest that I read your speech delivered on September 26, 2001, titled "Technology, Business and Our way of Life: What's Next" [sic]. I was particularly interested in the story you told at the end of your speech, about the Arab/Muslim civilization. As an Assyrian, a non-Arab, Christian native of the Middle East, whose ancestors reach back to 5000 B.C., I wish to clarify some points you made in this little story, and to alert you to the dangers of unwittingly being drawn into the Arabist/Islamist ideology, which seeks to assimilate all cultures and religions into the Arab/Islamic fold.

I know you are a very busy woman, but please find ten minutes to read what follows, as it is a perspective that you will not likely get from anywhere else. I will answer some of the specific points you made in your speech, then conclude with a brief perspective on this Arabist/Islamist ideology.

Arabs and Muslims appeared on the world scene in 630 A.D., when the armies of Muhammad began their conquest of the Middle East. We should be very clear that this was a military conquest, not a missionary enterprise, and through the use of force, authorized by a declaration of a Jihad against infidels, Arabs/Muslims were able to forcibly convert and assimilate non-Arabs and non-Mulsims into their fold. Very few indigenous communities of the Middle East survived this -- primarily Assyrians, Jews, Armenians and Coptics (of Egypt).

Having conquered the Middle East, Arabs placed these communities under a Dhimmi (see the book Dhimmi, by Bat Ye'Or) system of governance, where the communities were allowed to rule themselves as religious minorities (Christians, Jews and Zoroastrian). These communities had to pay a tax (called a Jizzya in Arabic) that was, in effect, a penalty for being non-Muslim, and that was typically 80% in times of tolerance and up to 150% in times of oppression. This tax forced many of these communities to convert to Islam, as it was designed to do.

You state, "its architects designed buildings that defied gravity." I am not sure what you are referring to, but if you are referring to domes and arches, the fundamental architectural breakthrough of using a parabolic shape instead of a spherical shape for these structures was made by the Assyrians more than 1300 years earlier, as evidenced by their archaeological record.

You state, "its mathematicians created the algebra and algorithms that would enable the building of computers, and the creation of encryption." The fundamental basis of modern mathematics had been laid down not hundreds but thousands of years before by Assyrians and Babylonians, who already knew of the concept of zero, of the Pythagorean Theorem, and of many, many other developments expropriated by Arabs/Muslims (see History of Babylonian Mathematics, Neugebauer).

You state, "its doctors examined the human body, and found new cures for disease." The overwhelming majority of these doctors (99%) were Assyrians. In the fourth, fifth, and sixth centuries Assyrians began a systematic translation of the Greek body of knowledge into Assyrian. At first they concentrated on the religious works but then quickly moved to science, philosophy and medicine. Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Galen, and many others were translated into Assyrian, and from Assyrian into Arabic. It is these Arabic translations which the Moors brought with them into Spain, and which the Spaniards translated into Latin and spread throughout Europe, thus igniting the European Renaissance.

By the sixth century A.D., Assyrians had begun exporting back to Byzantia their own works on science, philosophy and medicine. In the field of medicine, the Bakhteesho Assyrian family produced nine generations of physicians, and founded the great medical school at Gundeshapur (Iran). Also in the area of medicine, (the Assyrian) Hunayn ibn-Ishaq's textbook on ophthalmology, written in 950 A.D., remained the authoritative source on the subject until 1800 A.D.

In the area of philosophy, the Assyrian philosopher Job of Edessa developed a physical theory of the universe, in the Assyrian language, that rivaled Aristotle's theory, and that sought to replace matter with forces (a theory that anticipated some ideas in quantum mechanics, such as the spontaneous creation and destruction of matter that occurs in the quantum vacuum).

One of the greatest Assyrian achievements of the fourth century was the founding of the first university in the world, the School of Nisibis, which had three departments, theology, philosophy and medicine, and which became a magnet and center of intellectual development in the Middle East. The statutes of the School of Nisibis, which have been preserved, later became the model upon which the first Italian university was based (see The Statutes of the School of Nisibis, by Arthur Voobus).

When Arabs and Islam swept through the Middle East in 630 A.D., they encountered 600 years of Assyrian Christian civilization, with a rich heritage, a highly developed culture, and advanced learning institutions. It is this civilization that became the foundation of the Arab civilization.

You state, "Its astronomers looked into the heavens, named the stars, and paved the way for space travel and exploration." This is a bit melodramatic. In fact, the astronomers you refer to were not Arabs but Chaldeans and Babylonians (of present day south-Iraq), who for millennia were known as astronomers and astrologers, and who were forcibly Arabized and Islamized -- so rapidly that by 750 A.D. they had disappeared completely.

You state, "its writers created thousands of stories. Stories of courage, romance and magic. Its poets wrote of love, when others before them were too steeped in fear to think of such things." There is very little literature in the Arabic language that comes from this period you are referring to (the Koran is the only significant piece of literature), whereas the literary output of the Assyrians and Jews was vast. The third largest corpus of Christian writing, after Latin and Greek, is by the Assyrians in the Assyrian language (also called Syriac; see here.)

You state, "when other nations were afraid of ideas, this civilization thrived on them, and kept them alive. When censors threatened to wipe out knowledge from past civilizations, this civilization kept the knowledge alive, and passed it on to others." This is a very important issue you raise, and it goes to the heart of the matter of what Arab/Islamic civilization represents. I reviewed a book titled How Greek Science Passed to the Arabs, in which the author lists the significant translators and interpreters of Greek science. Of the 22 scholars listed, 20 were Assyrians, 1 was Persian and 1 an Arab. I state at the end of my review: "The salient conclusion which can be drawn from O'Leary's book is that Assyrians played a significant role in the shaping of the Islamic world via the Greek corpus of knowledge. If this is so, one must then ask the question, what happened to the Christian communities which made them lose this great intellectual enterprise which they had established. One can ask this same question of the Arabs. Sadly, O'Leary's book does not answer this question, and we must look elsewhere for the answer." I did not answer this question I posed in the review because it was not the place to answer it, but the answer is very clear, the Christian Assyrian community was drained of its population through forced conversion to Islam (by the Jizzya), and once the community had dwindled below a critical threshold, it ceased producing the scholars that were the intellectual driving force of the Islamic civilization, and that is when the so called "Golden Age of Islam" came to an end (about 850 A.D.).

Islam the religion itself was significantly molded by Assyrians and Jews (see Nestorian Influence on Islam and Hagarism: the Making of the Islamic World).

Arab/Islamic civilization is not a progressive force, it is a regressive force; it does not give impetus, it retards. The great civilization you describe was not an Arab/Muslim accomplishment, it was an Assyrian accomplishment that Arabs expropriated and subsequently lost when they drained, through the forced conversion of Assyrians to Islam, the source of the intellectual vitality that propelled it. What other Arab/Muslim civilization has risen since? What other Arab/Muslim successes can we cite?

You state, "and perhaps we can learn a lesson from his [Suleiman] example: It was leadership based on meritocracy, not inheritance. It was leadership that harnessed the full capabilities of a very diverse population that included Christianity, Islamic, and Jewish traditions." In fact, the Ottomans were extremely oppressive to non-Muslims. For example, young Christian boys were forcefully taken from their families, usually at the age of 8-10, and inducted into the Janissaries, (yeniceri in Turkish) where they were Islamized and made to fight for the Ottoman state. What literary, artistic or scientific achievements of the Ottomans can we point to? We can, on the other hand, point to the genocide of 750,000 Assyrians, 1.5 million Armenians and 400,000 Greeks in World War One by the Kemalist "Young Turk" government. This is the true face of Islam.

Arabs/Muslims are engaged in an explicit campaign of destruction and expropriation of cultures and communities, identities and ideas. Wherever Arab/Muslim civilization encounters a non-Arab/Muslim one, it attempts to destroy it (as the Buddhist statues in Afghanistan were destroyed, as Persepolis was destroyed by the Ayotollah Khomeini). This is a pattern that has been recurring since the advent of Islam, 1400 years ago, and is amply substantiated by the historical record. If the "foreign" culture cannot be destroyed, then it is expropriated, and revisionist historians claim that it is and was Arab, as is the case of most of the Arab "accomplishments" you cited in your speech. For example, Arab history texts in the Middle East teach that Assyrians were Arabs, a fact that no reputable scholar would assert, and that no living Assyrian would accept. Assyrians first settled Nineveh, one of the major Assyrian cities, in 5000 B.C., which is 5630 years before Arabs came into that area. Even the word 'Arab' is an Assyrian word, meaning "Westerner" (the first written reference to Arabs was by the Assyrian King Sennacherib, 800 B.C., in which he tells of conquering the "ma'rabayeh" -- Westerners. See The Might That Was Assyria, by H. W. F. Saggs).

Even in America this Arabization policy continues. On October 27th a coalition of seven Assyrian and Maronite organizations sent an official letter to the Arab American Institute asking it to stop identifying Assyrians and Maronites as Arabs, which it had been deliberately doing.

There are minorities and nations struggling for survival in the Arab/Muslim ocean of the Middle East and Africa (Assyrians, Armenians, Coptics, Jews, southern Sudanese, Ethiopians, Nigerians...), and we must be very sensitive not to unwittingly and inadvertently support Islamic fascism and Arab Imperialism, with their attempts to wipe out all other cultures, religions and civilizations. It is incumbent upon each one of us to do our homework and research when making statements and speeches about these sensitive matters.

I hope you found this information enlightening.


72 posted on 10/11/2006 4:28:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks ("Illegitimi non carborundum",)
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To: Salem

thanks for the ping Salem. See #72


73 posted on 10/11/2006 5:03:34 PM PDT by Fred Nerks ("Illegitimi non carborundum",)
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To: Fred Nerks
Thanks, Fred! Great!  !
74 posted on 10/11/2006 6:56:07 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Salem

I often think to myself it's one thing to vent our disgust of certain issues on an FR thread, but what we really aught to do, is make our views known to the source of our irritations, the dimwits, who might otherwise not be exposed to the information they need (either because they are too thick, or too indoctrinated).

Whenever the opportunity arises and the source of the idiocy, such as the subject of this thread is identified, let's hit them with e-mails.

Preaching to the choir isn't half as satisfying, IMO.

From now on, if I find an e-mail addy, I'll post it with my comment. Let's at least irritate them as much as they irritate us.


75 posted on 10/11/2006 7:08:06 PM PDT by Fred Nerks ("Illegitimi non carborundum",)
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To: Salem

Spt. Don Grotting.

and let's put a face to the name as often as we can!

76 posted on 10/11/2006 7:13:59 PM PDT by Fred Nerks ("Illegitimi non carborundum",)
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To: Man50D
Rage
Greed
Envy
Falsehood
Pride

The self evident five pillars of Islam.
77 posted on 10/11/2006 11:20:47 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: cardinal4

that sign should be posted prominently in a perimeter outside/around every mosque in the USA, the UK, Australia, Poland, Denmark, Italia...

IMHO

A.A.C.

"The Final Crusade has commenced: Draw Swords!"


78 posted on 10/12/2006 12:43:19 AM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thank you Fred for a very interesting and informative post - and easy to read. I will be saving this for when my son gets around to studying studying early history this year (6th grade).


79 posted on 10/12/2006 1:06:54 AM PDT by geopyg (If the carrot doesn't work, use the stick. Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: geopyg

The author of the letter has a website:

http://www.aina.org/aol/peter/brief.htm

Brief History of Assyrians

Peter BetBasoo

Geography
Racial Type
Language
Religion
History of Assyrians


80 posted on 10/12/2006 3:53:27 AM PDT by Fred Nerks ("Illegitimi non carborundum",)
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