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Heads Up! President Bush Addresses the Nation 09:45AM ET
Fox News | 10/9/2006 | staff

Posted on 10/09/2006 6:39:50 AM PDT by kellynla

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To: r9etb
But it doesn't mean we have no options. A steel fist doesn't necessarily mean mounting an invasion. There are less overt ways to take direct action, and I suspect those will start soon. I'm thinking things like infiltration teams for assassinations and sabotage -- and Li'l Kim's fuzzy head on a platter. Take out the regime, and the rest of NK will roll over.

Those are options that aren't on the table. Assassination of foreign leaders is illegal, and the U.S. won't engage in it. Period. Full stop.

While regime change would solve our problems, it's simply not an operational possibility. Especially when that regime has nuclear weapons. A decapitating strike that misses would invite retaliation, possibly of a 'legacy killing' type.

Testing a nuclear weapon is the single greatest thing Kim Jong Il ever did to stabilize his regime. We won't dare lay a hand on him now.

241 posted on 10/09/2006 7:25:42 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Now Fox News is blaming Bush for this!


242 posted on 10/09/2006 7:26:10 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: MadIvan

That only works if we can convince the South Koreans to join us. The Korean people are so desperate for reunification they'd rather do business with a newly-nuclear commie dictator than allow their bretheren to starve.


243 posted on 10/09/2006 7:26:24 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: r9etb
I'm thinking things like infiltration teams for assassinations and sabotage

That's what i thought. Wishful thinking.

244 posted on 10/09/2006 7:26:28 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Face it, every empire comes to an end, and ours is on the down hill slope.)
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To: dinoparty
What did Kristol say (for those without TVs)?

I didn't catch the whole thing, but he suggested something about getting China to open its border with North Korea and allow refugees. We would feed and shelter them.

245 posted on 10/09/2006 7:26:30 AM PDT by maryz
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To: johnny7

Roger Ailes stated goal for the Fox News organization is to become the largest outlet of TV news, period. So we are seeing much more "mainstream" commentary. It will be interesting to see the outcome of his project - If he can attract 'mainstream' viewers in large numbers. I guess 10 years of a network that was 'on our side' is all we can be thankful for.


246 posted on 10/09/2006 7:26:40 AM PDT by maica (9/11 was not “the day everything changed”, but the day that revealed how much had already changed.)
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To: MadIvan
China has lost face by its client stepping this far out of line. As such, they may assist.

There are reports China has moved military resources to their border with North Korea.
This could presage an invasion of NK ...

247 posted on 10/09/2006 7:27:04 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: VRWCtaz

I think W realizes that publicly declaring "we are going to nuke the bastards into the Stone Age" doesn't make for a good speech.


248 posted on 10/09/2006 7:27:19 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

But there's no axis of evil, is there?


249 posted on 10/09/2006 7:27:24 AM PDT by craig_eddy
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To: ichabod1
Gee could the usual suspects get the facts straight ONE time? The people who have been blocking military action are the South Koreans. Seoul. South Korea's Capital, which is their equivalent of New York City and Washington DC for us, is inside North Korean artillery range. Just how hung ho do you suppose the South Koreans are going to be to take action when they know their major city is going to be the primary retaliatory strike point?

Contrary to the provincial American notion that no one can do anything without the US holding their hands, the SK Military could of taken action any time to stop this. They choose not too. Do you REALLY think we should take action that our major allies in the region are asking us NOT to?
250 posted on 10/09/2006 7:27:33 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Evil Dooer, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
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To: MadIvan

This is why the Foley thing isn't the coup de grace for the GOP that the press is making it out to be. World events favor Bush in that he owns the world stage. All the Dems can do at times like this is seethe. LOL.


251 posted on 10/09/2006 7:28:03 AM PDT by veronica
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252 posted on 10/09/2006 7:28:16 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: silentknight

"President Bush said and PROMISED AMERICA that North Korea WOULD NOT be allowed to have Nuclear Weapons. "

it has been believed that they have them for some number of years, at least in limited quantity. However, in the media age of politics this was plausibly deniable until they tested.

The main problem with this test is the public pressure and response it forces from all involved nations who have wished this problem away for over a decade.


253 posted on 10/09/2006 7:28:37 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Williams

Bolton's been on my mind since last week... and I agree... things don't look/sound good.


254 posted on 10/09/2006 7:28:55 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: MadIvan
will lead to the country collapsing due to starvation.

I thought the people of North Korea were already near starvation -- as opposed to the elites and the military, of course.

255 posted on 10/09/2006 7:29:06 AM PDT by maryz
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To: MadIvan

I've thought of that too, but starving, unarmed people can't well overthrow a government. I wonder if there are enough North Koreans in exile in SK or elsewhere willing to take the plunge to get this started.


256 posted on 10/09/2006 7:29:07 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for that SW:)

Hate it when I'm office bound and important stuff happens!


257 posted on 10/09/2006 7:29:22 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: RockinRight
Are there enough fed-up North Koreans in exile to organize an overthrow of Lil' Kim?

There are enough power-hungry folks in NK to off him. Assassinations and sabotage will up the ante, and create opportunities.

Kim's regime, in recent years, has reminded me of what little I know about Chinese court politics -- dragon ladies positioning their offspring as "favored sons," etc. Lots of turmoil boiling just under the surface. I think the Chinese probably have the best understanding of how and where to exploit this -- and I think they will.

258 posted on 10/09/2006 7:29:29 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: xzins

"We will continue to protect ourselves and our interests" ..when GWB said that, his eyes were deadly serious.

Prayers up..


259 posted on 10/09/2006 7:29:32 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: MadIvan
Like I said, choke the regime to death. Make it so that things carrying on the way they are will lead to the country collapsing due to starvation. Either they will die, or the people or army will rise up in rebellion.

That's easy for us to say. We don't have to worry about the threat of a collapsing, nuclear armed police state across the border. The South Koreans won't let it happen.

Besides, many South Koreans are secretly proud that the Korean people are now a nuclear power. Don't underestimate the unification mindset of the Koreans, or their ability to rationalize away the threat.

260 posted on 10/09/2006 7:29:48 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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