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War 'creating more terrorists' is empty rhetoric
Arizona Daily Star (The Heritage Foundation ) ^ | James Jay Carafano

Posted on 10/08/2006 12:05:43 PM PDT by SandRat

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1 posted on 10/08/2006 12:05:45 PM PDT by SandRat
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To: 91B; HiJinx; Spiff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; clintonh8r; TEXOKIE; windchime; Grampa Dave; ...

Interesting


2 posted on 10/08/2006 12:06:03 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

Killing those who want to kill us. What am I missing here?


3 posted on 10/08/2006 12:08:44 PM PDT by kinoxi (.)
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To: SandRat

Poverty and ignorance is creating new terrorists and we know who these people are because they tell us who they are every day by word and deed.


4 posted on 10/08/2006 12:11:07 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Those that do not heed the warnings of history....)
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To: SandRat

This is coming from the most liberal rag in Arizona, mind you.


5 posted on 10/08/2006 12:11:46 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: SandRat

Throughout history, the message of the liberals is consistent in the face of the dangers that our country faces: SURRENDER.


6 posted on 10/08/2006 12:11:58 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." - GW Bush, referring to DNC's lack of a platform on ANYTHING)
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The recent leak of a portion of the National Intelligence Estimate led to newspaper headlines proclaiming that the war on terror is "creating more terrorists" than it's getting rid of.

I think the above statement has a kernal of truth but would make more sense restated as something like this...

"...as islamists are killed and as this war goes on, the enemy is working to recruit, train, and enlarge its force."

We all know there are many islamists that are going to join the jihad before this war is won.

7 posted on 10/08/2006 12:14:35 PM PDT by Dark Skies (Allah sez "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.")
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And “redeploying” to Okinawa will make us invincible...
8 posted on 10/08/2006 12:17:07 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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Counting numbers makes even less sense when we consider how many (or how few) terrorists it takes to kill or traumatize a great many people.

30,000+ Iraqis diasgree with this article.

9 posted on 10/08/2006 12:18:34 PM PDT by Wormwood (Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter because nobody listens.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

I know that's why I just said "interesting."


10 posted on 10/08/2006 12:21:31 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

ping for later


11 posted on 10/08/2006 12:22:04 PM PDT by navyguy
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"Yet, more than five years into the long war against terrorism, we still don't even know exactly how many enemy fighters we're up against."

How about the Iranian Army


12 posted on 10/08/2006 12:24:54 PM PDT by Garvin (John F. Kerry is a Masshole.)
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"Declaring that the war on terror is "creating more terrorists" than it's getting rid of is more of a bumper-sticker slogan than a serious attempt to gauge our progress."

The mooslugs said early on that terrorists from all over the world would come to Iraq.

GW said, "Bring 'em on."

Said it right up front. Better Iraq than Iowa.

yitbos

13 posted on 10/08/2006 12:27:03 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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To me, anytime you come down hard and increase the consequences, the loosely affiliated and wannabes will decide to stay home. So this assertion has never made any sense. The 40,000 number of trainees is interesting and indicative that we let them get a 20 year headstart. Demands that we snuff it out in 5 years are pretty silly, imho.


14 posted on 10/08/2006 12:35:33 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Mike Darancette

Ignorance, yes. But the poverty bit doesn't fly. How many criminals are wealthy? And most of the 9/11 terrorists - not to mention Bin Laden - were quite well off.


15 posted on 10/08/2006 12:40:34 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity; SandRat

"Throughout history, the message of the liberals is consistent in the face of the dangers that our country faces: SURRENDER."

I'm 52 years old, and all my life liberals have told us to surrender, regardless of the size of the conflict.


16 posted on 10/08/2006 12:44:27 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: ClaireSolt

My guess is 10 years to "discourage" the terrorists by killing a great many of them.


17 posted on 10/08/2006 12:46:10 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: SandRat

I think the "creating terrorist" argument is silly. It is just counter any reasonable analysis from a conscious person. It is like saying imprisoning criminals creates more of them. Not to mention it is entirely inaccurate. Creating terrorists would involve us establishing training camps and providing funding to terrorist organizations. I suppose we could look at buying Oil from the MiddleEast as creating terrorists but then one would have to make the leap that all the Oil money that goes to Arabs is funding terrorists and that the individuals who receive the benefit of such do not have any moral responsibility for their actions. It does fit with the bankrupt leftist bent in which no person can be held responsible for their actions unless of course they are evil Republicans.


18 posted on 10/08/2006 12:50:10 PM PDT by Maelstorm (It is time to knock some Democrat heads and open up with everything we've got.)
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To: onedoug
And most of the 9/11 terrorists - not to mention Bin Laden - were quite well off.

Those are the rock-stars of terrorism. The run of the mill Jihadi that plants the bombs or dies in greatest numbers in Iraq and Afghanistan are from meaner backgrounds.

19 posted on 10/08/2006 12:55:58 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Those that do not heed the warnings of history....)
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To: ClaireSolt
Imho, your ho is correcto.

yitbos

20 posted on 10/08/2006 1:14:13 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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