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Chinese Fears of North Korean Nukes
Times of London ^ | October 8, 2006 | Michael Sheridan

Posted on 10/07/2006 5:55:25 PM PDT by Thud

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To: Quix
Knowledgeable. It's all public record, except for my opinion that the Bush administration and the Chinese govt. have made a deal. That is opinion only. Note the cessation of Chinese travel to NK:

"“All visits by Chinese have recently been stopped,” said a local official. “They gave us no reason for it.”

21 posted on 10/07/2006 6:39:26 PM PDT by Thud
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To: JasonC
What kind of animals do these Chinese goons have to be, to obey orders to send innocent human beings back into that hell-hole? Just let them in already. The country would collapse in days and you would own it, and everyone on earth would applaud. But moral action is impossible for evil-stupid men. If we can call them men.

The Chinese although implicit in this are not directly responsible. The North Koreans are responsible in this instance.
22 posted on 10/07/2006 6:39:26 PM PDT by kinoxi (.)
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To: kinoxi

eyu


23 posted on 10/07/2006 6:45:40 PM PDT by azhenfud (an enigma between two parentheses)
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To: kinoxi
Yes the Chinese are responsible. North Korea exists because of Chinese military force. They made it, they support it, they defend it against the civilized world, they prevent anyone else from doing anything about it and do nothing about it themselves. It is their utter disgrace and gives the lie to any claim they might otherwise have to be a civilized country.
24 posted on 10/07/2006 6:45:43 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: kinoxi; JasonC

I dare say the Chinese are indeed bloody handed for returning these innocent human beings back to these monsters!

The Chinese don't exactly have a clean record when it comes to valuing human life, especially that of the unborn.

I'm with Jason on this. He said it very well.

"What kind of animals do these Chinese goons have to be, to obey orders to send innocent human beings back into that hell-hole? Just let them in already. The country would collapse in days and you would own it, and everyone on earth would applaud. But moral action is impossible for evil-stupid men. If we can call them men."


25 posted on 10/07/2006 6:47:02 PM PDT by freeper_peeper
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To: JasonC
Okay, so by your logic Russia is responsible. They're responsible for encouraging the regime in China. Also by that logic American officers could be responsible for torture after returning illegals to their own country. I don't agree with the chicoms but to blame the individual guards in this instance is not right.
26 posted on 10/07/2006 6:52:41 PM PDT by kinoxi (.)
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To: Thud; All
Editorial

JoongAng Daily, South Korea
If North Tests The Bomb, South Will Need its Own ...

In order to protect itself from North Korean aggression, if Pyongyang proceeds with a nuclear test, South Korea will have no choice but to consider possessing nuclear weapons of its own. And it will be the same for both Japan and Taiwan, who would very likely follow suit.

Rather than pushing us to pursue peaceful coexistence within the region, the North's action would certainly lead Northeast Asian toward military confrontation. Pyongyang's possession of nuclear weapons would make it impossible for Northeast Asia to have and keep the peace...

27 posted on 10/07/2006 7:01:27 PM PDT by zipper
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To: Thud

Not sure I trust such deals much at all.

Seems like the puppet masters have too many hands in too many deals in our era.

I hope our President is cautious and tough.


28 posted on 10/07/2006 7:03:09 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: headstamp

Unspeakable.

Right up there with the Chinese treatment of the Tibetians.


29 posted on 10/07/2006 7:28:43 PM PDT by Sundog (In a world without Walls or Fences, who needs Windows or Gates?)
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To: Thud
"....where wild rumours of an American attack on nuclear test sites have spread fears of a Chernobyl-type cloud of radiation...."

Could it be NK has already had its accident, er, I mean test?

30 posted on 10/07/2006 7:33:35 PM PDT by azhenfud (an enigma between two parentheses)
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To: Thud
"stab each one with steel cable, loop it under the collarbone and out again, and yoke them together like animals"

How can the civilized world sit back and let these demons continue to treat their people like this?

We should use our air force and bomb the hell out of their military sites.
31 posted on 10/07/2006 7:44:13 PM PDT by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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To: azhenfud

President Bush has an interesting public image in China.


32 posted on 10/07/2006 7:44:42 PM PDT by Thud
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To: Thud
Several Chinese soldiers have died in clashes with rogue North Korean soldiers who have crossed the border...

Interesting to note and contrast the recent experience in Lebanon with 3 Israeli soldiers, and what that triggered...

33 posted on 10/07/2006 7:58:09 PM PDT by C210N (Bush SPIED, Terrorists DIED!)
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To: C210N
Nah, hungry North Korean enlisted conscripts have been taking their personal weapons off base, crossing into China and perpetrating armed robberies for years, notably of banks, then crossing back into North Korea. That was when I said North Korea doesn't have an army anymore.

18-24 months ago the Chinese moved about 75,000 more troops to the Yalu as "bank guards".

34 posted on 10/07/2006 8:10:32 PM PDT by Thud
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To: C210N

I wouldn't be surprised if several hundred thousand Chinese humanitarian aid volunteers and hospital orderlies succor the starving North Koreans this year.


35 posted on 10/07/2006 8:13:12 PM PDT by Thud
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To: Thud

Fine, let them spend their own money, rather than pouring US taxpayer dollars down the rathole as usual.


36 posted on 10/07/2006 8:18:46 PM PDT by Pete98 (After his defeat by the Son of God, Satan changed his name to Allah and started over.)
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To: Pete98

You misunderstand the nature of the "humanitarian" activity.


37 posted on 10/07/2006 8:23:03 PM PDT by Thud
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To: JasonC

They do it to discourage them from coming over in the first place.

John


38 posted on 10/07/2006 8:30:30 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: Thud

China should put their foot down on North Korea.


39 posted on 10/07/2006 8:36:56 PM PDT by GOPJ (Quickest way to put the Foley scandal behind us is for Foley to switch parties - BufordP)
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To: Thud

China's best bet is to orchestrate a coup to put someone more pliable in charge while at the same time keeping NK alive as a client state. Any other solution is a bad one for them.


40 posted on 10/07/2006 8:38:27 PM PDT by flying Elvis
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