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Poll: Pentecostals widening influence
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| October 5, 2006
| Rachel Zoll
Posted on 10/07/2006 6:40:10 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Quix
Isaiah 30:15
This is what the Sovereign Lord, the Holy One of Israel says,
"In repentance and rest is your salvation;
In quietness and trust is your strength."
You must choose it.
To: Theo
Amen, Theo. Trouble is too many dead churches don't believe in the gifts of the HS. God is about to break out miracles and signs and I'm sure they'll say it's of the devil. I'm a charismatic Christian and I don't hear many tongues spoken in church anymore. The early movement in the 80s focussed on signs and not the Word but it's changed dramatically in the past 20 years. We're very word-oriented in our church but we believe in the gifts of the Spirit and operate in them. God has only started to pour His Spirit out on all nations and the folks that don't want to receive it will be left out.
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posted on
10/09/2006 7:30:52 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
To: KsSunflower
Amen. I love it when God moves. Sometimes it's in silence and the whole church quiets down for what seems like forever and sometimes you can just feel His presence in music, worship, prayer. If God's not there, it's not worth going to church, IMHO. Too many churches push Him out.
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posted on
10/09/2006 7:32:48 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
To: Not just another dumb blonde
Most modern (if you can call them that) pentecostal churches don't seem to 'require' that any longer. There's a new Word-oriented movement in most of these churches now. I can't speak for the south, but in the north they seem to be steering away from trying to make people speak in tongues.
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posted on
10/09/2006 7:35:31 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
To: Radix
What you see on television does NOT reflect the average pentecostal/charismatic church. Besides, when you judge other christians, you reap judgement upon yourself. And you do NOT want God to judge you or give you what you deserve, do you? Not me! I've already learned THAT lesson.
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posted on
10/09/2006 7:41:20 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
To: Celtman
306
posted on
10/09/2006 7:42:26 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
To: Quix
AMEN, Quix. They don't know what they're doing when they spit on the Holy Spirit and what he's doing today.
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posted on
10/09/2006 7:47:35 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
To: Quix
That's right. The Wesley's were spirit filled men of God.
308
posted on
10/09/2006 7:49:53 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
To: Salvation
Never say never, my friend.
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posted on
10/09/2006 7:51:06 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
To: jeremiah
You come very close to blaspheming the Holy Spirit, Jeremiah. You do NOT know the hearts of these worshippers nor what God is doing in them. Shame on you.
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posted on
10/09/2006 7:53:26 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
To: Marysecretary
Som de la whazzit, dush allo scorteena beliba sud. Cha na zsha do, femer su la.
I'm writing in tongues
To: apackof2
Yeah, really. They must enjoy the box they've put their God in.
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posted on
10/09/2006 7:54:25 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
To: Quix
Our men and women are good looking as well because they have hearts filled with the Holy Spirit and it beams out of them. You don't have to have beautiful features or hairdos, etc., to be beautiful.
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posted on
10/09/2006 7:56:39 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
To: KsSunflower
In most churches, at least it seems that way to me, it depends on the pastor/leadership of the church as to how the congregation flows. Ours was a little American Baptist church until our pastor came, 25 years ago. He turned that little church of 20 into a vital congregation of over 200 in a very few years. We put on two additions during that time and a Christian school serving kids from pre-school through graduation. The Holy Spirit moves in our services but not dramatically (I'd love to see more of it happening) but it can and does happen from time to time. We're open to any move of the Holy Spirit and I believe in time we will have many healings, signs and wonders, but most importantly we have pastors who preach God's word. It's a great place to worship and they're a great family.
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posted on
10/09/2006 8:06:47 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
To: ladyinred
Hitler used the Church, and that many cooperated with him. Having said that, I know he wasn't a real believer.
It doesn't matter if he was "real" or not. He was elected to office by Christians. Even the Jews of Berlin voted for him.
A part you are missing is that he also brought prosperity back to Germany
That was after he was elected. Building a war machine does bring prosperity to the country doing the building.
The part many don't get here, including me, is your sort of veiled comments that Pentecostals are going to do the same sort of thing.
No, it is a question of concern. From the article:
"Pentecostal and charismatic Christians, considered the fastest-growing stream of Christianity worldwide, shows they are deeply influencing the Roman Catholic and mainstream Protestant churches and are poised to make a big impact on global affairs"
It's that big impact on global affairs that have many of us concerned.
There is a concerted effort in this country right now to shut up Christians, and we are the ones being persecuted. Are you aware of that?
I'm aware that you control all three branches of government. You call that persecution?
I don't know if that is the case since you are being very stealth in some of your comments. If that is what you mean, just say so
My comments are straight to the point. Maybe you are searching for hidden meanings?
I know I am speaking for myself, but I certainly don't think this country is going to legislate moral laws as you say, in fact, we are going the other direction entirely!
Lol!
Speaking of stealth! Let's run with the latest "Focus On The Family" stealth act. Last week the Internet Gambling ban was stealthily attached to the Port Security Bill. This was done because there was no public support for the ban and it was opposed by the banking industry. Legislated morality by Christians who want to banish temptation.
"It's wonderful that we have so many religious people in our party, ... They need to leave their theologies in their churches. Barry Goldwater
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posted on
10/09/2006 8:07:19 AM PDT
by
mugs99
(Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
To: pepsionice
Any faith that tells you to divorce your husband and find another one is way off track. They are NOT typical of charismatic churches. I'm not a big fan of A of G churches myself but I had never heard that one before.
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posted on
10/09/2006 8:10:02 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
To: KsSunflower
too bad you don't live near me. I think we could be good friends. Love, Mxxx
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posted on
10/09/2006 8:13:00 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
To: SoldierDad
Is your son stationed out of Watertown/Fort Drum's 10th Mountain Division?
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posted on
10/09/2006 8:14:41 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
To: Quix
A number of us replied to the context as posted. It stunk.
It still stinks.
You replied but dodged and are still dodging. You have not addressed the bold quote.
It's an off the wall allegation.
There was no allegation, there was a question. It's interesting that you can't answer the question.
It didn't fit authentic Christianity then and certainly doesn't now.
LOL!
"Authentic"...that sure covers a lot of sins!
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posted on
10/09/2006 8:17:13 AM PDT
by
mugs99
(Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
To: .30Carbine
Good testimony .30Carbine. Love, Mxxx
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posted on
10/09/2006 8:18:47 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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