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Former page: We knew about Foley 'for years'
TCPalm(Florida) ^ | October 1, 2006 | M.E. SPRENGELMEYER AND AMIE PARNES

Posted on 10/01/2006 7:45:10 AM PDT by Dane

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To: Petronski

It is NOT central to Foley(he is obviously guilty of this and more).

BUT...it is central to deconstructing the dem spin that the GOP leadership was complicit. Notice that starting the day it came out, that the dems went straight to implicating Hastert et al in some 'covering up'!
They have said nary a word about Foley's despicable behavoir and now the media is dutifully carrying the DNC template on this scandal to ruin the GOP and call for congressional hearings into blahblahblah...

We all know how they operate and I just don't think we should let them get away with it.


161 posted on 10/01/2006 10:10:06 AM PDT by penelopesire
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To: onyx
We could also call the Mark Foley sickness; the Barney Frank factor. That's what happens when you leave an openly gay member of congress who runs a prostitution ring out of his home in power. It's contagious! lol!

What is contagious is congress covering one another's *sses. As if everyone who dealt with Foley didn't know what kind of creep he was is beyond shallow.

162 posted on 10/01/2006 10:10:09 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: ArtyFO; kcvl; onyx
Maybe Foley should have studied for the priesthood...

Instead, it seems like Foley was studying hard, L. Ron's leather bound book.

/group-shame

163 posted on 10/01/2006 10:11:44 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: kcvl

I don't know how many threads we're going to have here, but it's already tiresome trying to separate fact from democrat talking points.


164 posted on 10/01/2006 10:12:54 AM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: onyx

The newspaper held these emails & text messages for over A YEAR! Why did they wait until six weeks BEFORE AN ELECTION to release them?!!!


165 posted on 10/01/2006 10:14:26 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: nmh

What is sickening is that this kind of behavior is known about and tollerated on both sides of the isle until election season.

Politicians give prostitution a bad name.


166 posted on 10/01/2006 10:15:05 AM PDT by Steamburg (Pretenders everywhere)
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To: kcvl

Thanks for the info. I thought he had inappropriate contact with young or underage boys from the thread. He should have been tossed for the parking tickets but I don't see inppropriate sexual stuff here.


167 posted on 10/01/2006 10:15:20 AM PDT by rudabaga
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To: onyx
Looks like he's a Scientologist.

Well, he used to be Roman Catholic..just do a web search on him.

168 posted on 10/01/2006 10:15:23 AM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: sockmonkey


So what? Your linking him to the Church is incorrect.


169 posted on 10/01/2006 10:17:10 AM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: kcvl


You and I both know the answer to that!
"Timing is everything."


170 posted on 10/01/2006 10:18:12 AM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: FreeReign
Don't buy into the RC-hating, Republican-hating group guilt propaganda.

I'm hardly a hater of the RC Church-I'm RC myself, and baby sockmonkey's a cloistered Nun.

171 posted on 10/01/2006 10:18:26 AM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: FreeReign
I love how these talking heads are calling Foley 'sick'. I wonder what gays think about that?! If this was a RAT they wouldn't be calling him 'sick' they would be calling him a HERO!

When I see one of the Clinton defenders out claiming to be disgusted over this I only remember how they were all for keeping a LYING CREEP in the Presidency because it was his 'personal life'!

I have always disliked Foley but I didn't know why! I thought he looked like a creep who kept licking his lips. It looked freaky!

I can't wait for the TRUTH about who knew what & when. I will guarantee more people knew about this than they are willing to admit (including a bunch of liars aka RATS & 'reporters').

172 posted on 10/01/2006 10:18:58 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: rudabaga

was running a prostitution business from Frank's apartment (ILLEGAL!)


173 posted on 10/01/2006 10:20:08 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: ardara

Preying on young men, barely more than boys, in their teenage years. Let the light of TRUTH shine on ALL and may it disinfect everywhere it shines.


174 posted on 10/01/2006 10:21:41 AM PDT by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
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To: penelopesire

Agreed.


175 posted on 10/01/2006 10:25:57 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: Dane
I've been following this thread with consternation and teeth gnashing, and I'm responding to the original post just to dive into the discussion but I'm responding more to the whole thing in general.

Too many people are getting fixated over whether the Dems or the media are behind this, or are falling into the libertarian trap of "what did he do wrong," or are trying to split legal hairs as far as age of consent, etc.

The reality is, it's out now and you can't put genies back into bottles. And the reality is, IMHO Foley is a cancer that had to be excised ASAP before the situation mestastized even worse, whether we take a hit in that district or not.

And if it is proven by "stand up in court" evidence, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that our leadership knew about this and sat on it, then they should be held to account. The hell with Barney Frank and Slick Clinton and all the other sideshows that are being discussed here. I've been involved in conservative politics for 30 years longer than FR has been in existence, and you know what? Another reality is that we are held to a double standard. Is it fair? No. But it's not going to change. So we need to do what's right and move forward.

And IMHO, moving forward needs to be the national and Florida Republican parties getting together and picking a good candidate for this GOP-leaning district and educating the folks on the procedure here, letting them know that even though it may be Foley's name on the ballot, they're actually voting for somebody else. It's going to be very tough, but I think it's doable and THAT is where we need to be directing our time and energy.

176 posted on 10/01/2006 10:27:17 AM PDT by GB
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To: Dane
From a little known 80s punk band (edited for content):

"I'm 18 and finally of age
I'll go to Washington and be a page
In the Senate or House, I don't care
I'll be b**fing with my congressman everywhere
UTB, UTB, I want a congressman UTB"

Lyrics here (for the morbidly curious):
U.T.B.

177 posted on 10/01/2006 10:28:00 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: onyx
So what? Your linking him to the Church is incorrect.

I guess since I'm a member of the RC Church, a parent, a Republican, a United States citizen, and a member of the human race, his inappropriate, perverse behavior which was a betrayal of his responsibility and duty to all the above, plus his duty to those he represented pisses me off.

I would like to smack him with a sock full of pennies.

178 posted on 10/01/2006 10:28:07 AM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: sockmonkey


Good for you.
I am Roman Catholic too, so what IS your point?


179 posted on 10/01/2006 10:29:29 AM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: McGavin999

"You are entirely wrong. They only knew he wrote mildly inappropriate e-mails to pages after they returned home. They were told that the parents just wanted the e-mails to stop and did not want to file a complaint. No one new about the sexually explicite IMs until the other day and then they immediately came down on him. In other words, Foley didn't make any advances on the pages while they were pages, he waited until they returned home before making his moves."

That's nonsense. I worked in government. These things are always known. The rumor mill works overtime continuously. And Foley was outed in 1996. There is no excuse for this at all except for incompetence.


180 posted on 10/01/2006 10:30:23 AM PDT by RichardW
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