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CA: Nation's first cap on greenhouse gases signed
San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 9/28/06 | Michael Gardner and Matt Krasnowski - CNS

Posted on 09/28/2006 9:59:15 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 09/28/2006 9:59:16 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Has CA banned cars yet?


2 posted on 09/28/2006 10:00:57 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey McCain and Graham .... our soldiers signed up to dodge bullets not lawsuits)
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To: NormsRevenge
At the same time, the state will launch an emissions market for businesses to buy and sell pollution credits, a potential moneymaker for innovators and a possible buoy for those companies that cannot economically or technologically meet the looming cap.

See! See! Arnold's a Republican - greenhouse gases will be controlled by supply and demand! Do you really want Angelides to win? < /S >

3 posted on 09/28/2006 10:02:03 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: NormsRevenge

Piss off, Arnold. I can't control my gag reflex enough to pull the lever for you.


4 posted on 09/28/2006 10:02:46 AM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: TheWholeTruth777

I think you are lost.


6 posted on 09/28/2006 10:06:53 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: TheWholeTruth777

Ooohhh...you're gonna get it now. IBTZ

Buh bye.


7 posted on 09/28/2006 10:07:16 AM PDT by telebob
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To: TheWholeTruth777

Welcome to FreeRepublic. May your stay here be short.


8 posted on 09/28/2006 10:07:35 AM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: NormsRevenge
In 20 years, California will be the economic basket case of the United States. It will be as much of an example of the failure of environmentalism and intrusive statist regulation as Cuba is for the failure of Communism. The only benefit may be that the economy will so degenerate that illegal aliens will prefer to migrate to other states, thereby slowing down the Mexicanization of California.
9 posted on 09/28/2006 10:07:42 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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I heard someone on the radio yesterday summerized this legislation and arnolds goals.

1. Make it more expensive to drive here by adding $1,500 to $2,000 more per auto.
2. Install a power line to Minnosota simply moving our pollution there.
3. Plant more trees.
4. Move our land fills to Arizona.
5. Allow polluters to pollute more by exchanging their pollution credits with a company that pollutes less (naturally with a government broker fee.

The concept of "global" warming seems to be lost in Sacramento.


10 posted on 09/28/2006 10:08:53 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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You are fried...


11 posted on 09/28/2006 10:09:46 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: Wallace T.
No, it won't. How many of these kinds of laws have been revised before the due dates arrive? The goal is what, twenty years out? In two decades the Golden State will still be the economic engine for the whole country, but you have a nice day anyway.
12 posted on 09/28/2006 10:10:42 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: NormsRevenge

Will the last business leaving California please turn off the light?


13 posted on 09/28/2006 10:17:10 AM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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Your state's electorate is currently well to the left of those voters who placed Reagan into the governor's office, passed Proposition 13, and sometimes sent conservatives like Knowland and Hayakawa to the U.S. Senate. How can a state with a RINO governor and a leftist dominated legislature not continue along the same course that it has followed for over a decade? The conservative electorate is numerically overwhelmed.

Political climates can and do change. Before the Depression, Massachusetts was one of the most conservative states in the country, and its best known representatives in politics were Calvin Coolidge and Henry Cabot Lodge, Sr. At the present time, that state is hopelessly Democratic, with the exception of their RINO governor, Mitt Romney. It appears that the same has happened to California. I bear no grudge against your state, but I wish it were on the side of the Southern, Lower Midwestern, Rockies, and Plains states and not a part of the bicoastal enemy camp.

14 posted on 09/28/2006 10:23:53 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: NormsRevenge

let them sit in the dark and eat cold tofu.

The state of California is a stupid, evil place.


15 posted on 09/28/2006 10:25:28 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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Your state has just earmarked large bucks to Cal-EPA to implement this... How many bureaucracies have you seen just go away?

I work as a contract industrial planner for capital project and heavy maintenance mostly in refining, chemical and power. The Federal EPA has things so tight already there is no way the refineries can comply with a 25% reduction while expanding capacity. These bills have just put every California refinery out of business… I should make great money relocating them though…


16 posted on 09/28/2006 10:47:41 AM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Member & GUNSNET.NET Moderator)
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To: Buck W.

"Will the last business leaving California please turn off the light?"

No need, the lights will turn themselves out.


17 posted on 09/28/2006 10:49:35 AM PDT by CSM ("When you stop lying about us, we'll stop telling the truth about you." No Truce With Kings)
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To: NormsRevenge
California is the world's 12th-largest producer of greenhouse gases, mostly carbon dioxide from burning fossil fuels.

A lot of those fossil fuels are forest and brush fires.

So..will a few of those use up the CO2 points?

18 posted on 09/28/2006 10:53:59 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: NormsRevenge

Sounds like a violation of the dormant Commerce Clause, to me. It interferes with interstate commerce. States are not supposed to solve global problem, that's for the Feds.


19 posted on 09/28/2006 11:02:05 AM PDT by Defiant (There is no god but AOL, and Muhammad uses Messenger.)
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To: Gorzaloon
A serious question; the term 'fossil fuels' is still used for what reason? They're not still claiming oil comes from dead dinosaurs, are they?

That would've required a whoooooolllle lotta' dead dinosaurs. What am I missing?

20 posted on 09/28/2006 11:27:16 AM PDT by chiller (every time we call MSM "mainstream" we confirm their status. "Drive-by" is working nicely.)
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