Posted on 09/27/2006 6:50:46 AM PDT by Republicain
Thanks.
zimdog's comments on FR consist solely of aggressive support of Islam. Odd, that.
Don't impose your skepticism on your fellow citizens.What are you talking about?
I mean this: Weegee has every right to be "skeptical" of Muslims' every move if he so desires, but absent any concrete evidence, he should not expect the government -- and by extension, all Americans -- to harbor those same suspicions and spend American anti-terror resources spying on the Pakistani family down the street for no reason other than their professed religion.
Your accusation is contradicted by my posts on FR. Must mean you didn't read them. Odd that.
Here's another bit of factual evidence: Europeans and their overseas descendents have been slaughtering in the name of God for a lot longer than 1400 years. Whether some instructions in their holy books contradict other instructions doesn't seem to make much difference, and given the past 2000+ years of history, there is no reason to expect the last 25 years of relative peace are anything but an anomaly. What do you propose we do about the people of this bloodthirsty region?
/half-sarcasm
The fact is that virtually every Moslem east, north, south and west of Saudi Arabia is a descendent of someone forced into Islam. The butchery and aggression done in the name of Islam is not imaginary, and continues to this very day.
This is all sadly true, but it is hardly unique to Islam.
Hating slaughter performed as a religious act is not bigotry, it is sanity.
Certainly.
I have a question for you - are you a Muslim by any chance? And what country do you live in?
I have a question for you -- are you trying to get me banned because you don't agree with me on matters of the rights of Muslims?
Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the Skull Throne!
Oh, wait a sec, I'm getting my cults confused again, lol.
I read one solid page of your FR comments. They were all on threads about Islam, and they all criticized those who think that Islamic jihad has something to do with Islam.
BTW, I have two Korans and have not read every word, but quite a bit, and have been friends with a Sufi, and do not fear or hate ordinary Muslims. But I do have a brain and a couple of eyes, and see that Islamic jihad does indeed have something to do with the philosophy of Islam, and that Islamic jihad is threatening the peace and lives of much of the world.
"there is no reason to expect the last 25 years of relative peace are anything but an anomaly."
So you're saying that only in the last 25 years have Christians en masse stopped killing people in the name of religion? Are you referring to Ireland, or what? Your attempt to equate the ancient past of Judaism, for instance, with the present activities of Islamic jihad is heavy handed, to say the least.
I am not trying to get you banned; I just want people to see what you're up to.
You might want to read those threads again. Most of my posts were in response to violent bigots who happily and openly proclaimed that they would kill all Muslims if given the chance, or that they wanted to deport Muslim citizens en masse, or that they celecrated violent attacks on innocent people who happened to be Muslim or mistaken for being Muslims. These people are very comfortable telling the whole world that they would kill your Sufi friend without a moment's hesitation. If you have a problem with me responding "aggressively" to that, I suggest you take it up with your Sufi friend.
Your attempt to equate the ancient past of Judaism, for instance, with the present activities of Islamic jihad is heavy handed, to say the least.
I made no such attempt. I provided an illustration of a case where scriptual calls to murder and a recorded history of religious violence are largely ignored by pious, right-thinking people. There is no reason to believe that the Qur'an can't be and isn't interpreted in the same way.
I just want people to see what you're up to.
Me too. Here it is: TRUTH, JUSTICE, and the AMERICAN WAY
Not a day goes by when a bunch of mohammedan barbarians aren't rioting somewhere!
Aren't you glad that Al Gore invented it?
chuckle.
I would have no problem DEFENDING my home and family, or my country as well. The tone of conversation has been to slaughter "all moslims everywhere", that is to say, every man, woman, and child. That is a step farther than you indicated, and, most would, including you, have a major problem with the children part.
They aren't losing the fight. They've lost. When will they admit they need real help and change in the area? I suppose when the 'kids' take over an urban area and they call the US for help. Wow, stealing the keys right under their noses. I'm sure the vehicles will be next, they can stroll in and drive them right out. Brussells, Paris, places in Holland. It's like watching a patient Hitler take over Europe in slo-mo, but has most of Europe adopted France's panic and let them attitude? Cheese-eating, surrender monkeys was supposed to be a comment on French lack of courage, not a motto for neighboring countries to use.
Wrong. He has every right to expect his government to protect him, and has every right to expect his neighbors not to plot to kill him.
Absent any concrete evidence, there's no reason to expect a Moslem NOT to suddenly kill a bunch of people.
Mass murder is the Islamic way, and has been since its inception. You have every right to state or imply otherwise, but you are dead wrong in your opinion.
You did indeed equate ancient history as detailed in the OT (and tossed in Christian history as well, still not sure what the "25 years ago" thing meant) with constant, non-stop Muslim butchery.
I would never, never condone wholesale slaughter of innocents (although Islamic jihadis and their supporters do).
Why do you focus on the WORDS of people on the internet, ignoring the very real actual slaughter and military aggression by Muslims, which has been going on for 1400 years up until the present day? Why don't you criticize that?
You remind me of the MSM - bitching about panties on heads, and mute about torture, beheadings, gouging out eyes, disembowelling, rapes and the whole gamut of horrible Muslim behavior.
You claim that such behavior is not "real Muslim" or not done by "real Muslims". Then why in their madrassahs and mosques is violent jihad fomented?
I guess there aren't that many real Muslims. I am sure that out in the fields of India and other places there are mellow Muslims who do not support violent jihad. But unfortuantely they are afraid of their violent brethren, too afraid for most of them to speak out.
This is itself is very telling.
Europe will be losing most of their American tourists, even Democrats.
As to the radicalization of jihadists...
The one "sure sign" for physical jihad (holy war) is when a nation bans (or supresses) Islam.
So as more muslims become violent extremists, it becomes harder for a host country to address the problem by restraining them. Perceived vesus actual supression is in the mind of the jihadist.
It's one of several booby traps to reforming Islam. Another is that Mohammed was the last prophet so those who try to deny the laws of Islam (including slavery) preach blasphemy, they cannot change the teachings.
Will muslims ever denounce the concept of holy war? Or just the trigger signals, saying "now is not the time"?
Good! I hope those bastar#s riot themselves into deportation. Wake up europe, the bell tolls for thee.
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