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Reality setting in on real estate
GlobalMacroScope ^ | September 2006 | Max Fraad Wolff

Posted on 09/23/2006 9:38:39 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: GodGunsGuts
figures lie, liars figure...

When percentages fit the premise, use percentages.
When percentage doesn't fit the premise, use numbers.

In 2005 adjustable rate mortgages (ARM) accounted for 24% of all residential loans and 75% of sub-prime loans. One million households have either received sub-prime loans or are at risk of foreclosure from mortgage burden.

so, sub-prime is 75% of 24% ?
and 1 million homes equates to what percentage ? especially if 70% of Americans own their own home ? (never mind that the 70% doesn't breakdown which are mortgaged and which are not)

"I-might-be-almost-right-after 10-years" - Ping!
"A-bazillion-gazillion-trillion-in-lost-equity" -Ping!
"Homeless-increase-under-President Bush" -Ping!
"Doom-and-gloom" - Ping!
"we're-all-doomed" - Ping
"Worst-economy-since-Hoover" -Ping !
"I-buy-real-estate-cheap" - Ping !

If-I've-left-anybody-out" - Ping !
41 posted on 09/23/2006 10:40:50 AM PDT by stylin19a (I'm not just long, I'm Lama long !)
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To: Porterville

I'm glad you admit that emotional garbage coming from me would truly come as a shock to you. You are absolutely correct IMHO d:op


42 posted on 09/23/2006 10:42:35 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: stylin19a

I think the authors point went right over your head and parted your hair. Read it again.


43 posted on 09/23/2006 10:44:23 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Returns to earth are often painful.


44 posted on 09/23/2006 10:46:19 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie

According to some on this thread, what goes up, stays up...forever.

http://www.schwab.com/public/file?cmsid=P-1536370&filename=5.gif


45 posted on 09/23/2006 10:48:54 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: ex-Texan

Is that in Pasadena, by any chance?


46 posted on 09/23/2006 10:49:15 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

"The coming drastic reduction in purchasing of exports by suffering members of middle class- and soon to be former middle class Americans- will have global impact."

Maybe "made in USA" will make a comeback.


47 posted on 09/23/2006 10:52:06 AM PDT by gas0linealley
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To: gas0linealley

Now there's a thought! I wouldn't say that too loud on this thread. Some might find it un-patriotic!


48 posted on 09/23/2006 10:54:38 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
just like the author, you assume facts not in evidence.
you can't make a point by cherry picking crappola, then state the obvious.
nice try ..thanks for playing...
49 posted on 09/23/2006 10:55:03 AM PDT by stylin19a (I'm not just long, I'm Lama long !)
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To: Porterville

It's like when our local city council gets a $25M property tax increase instead of a $28M increase and one of the coucil members throws a fit because of "budget cuts"


50 posted on 09/23/2006 11:00:00 AM PDT by rwilson99 (95% of Al-Jazzera Viewers Agree... the world is less safe (for them) since 9/11)
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To: Porterville

It's like when our local city council gets a $25M property tax increase instead of a $28M increase and one of the coucil members throws a fit because of "budget cuts"


51 posted on 09/23/2006 11:00:00 AM PDT by rwilson99 (95% of Al-Jazzera Viewers Agree... the world is less safe (for them) since 9/11)
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To: ex-Texan

What zip code is that house in? You know, location, location.


52 posted on 09/23/2006 11:12:06 AM PDT by Torie
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To: Larry Lucido; stm
By the way, that's a facially incorrect statement. You DO afford it today, based upon your net worth if not your income. Otherwise you wouldn't be in it unless someone else was giving you free rent. If you had your current net worth, and had to buy the home again at today's prices, you would have simply made the appropriate down payment and would be in the exact same position. What you're saying is that you couldn't have afforded it in 1991 based on only your 1991 income at today's prices. Well, (respectfully), duh.............Larry Lucido

What he is saying is that the housing prices have become unaffordable for first time buyers or for buyers with little equity who earn what he earns today.

Your argument makes his house "affordable" only because he already owns the house which he bought at good value in 1991 and you calculate the equity as part of his net worth. Your argument also assumes that he has not mortgaged his equity away by taking out a home equity loan.

Gimmick loans have flooded the market with dollars that the borrowers will not be able to repay once the interest-only grace period expires, the increased interest rates kick in and the principle repayment is compressed all into the remaining term of the loan.

That easy money has artificially inflated prices way beyond the actual value.

The situation is analogous to banks loaning everybody in a small town $3 million at terms they cannot repay and then seeing the price of a gallon of milk go up to $75 per gallon at the local supermarket and people in that town calculating their "net worth" by how many $2,500 pairs of Docker's slacks they own and by how their kid just bought a $100,000 mutt puppy dog by exchanging him for two $50,000 mutt kittens that the kid next door wanted to sell.

The only way you can afford to buy houses today is to either enter into an extremely foolish loan arrangement or pay for the new house with money that you received from someone that has entered into an extremely foolish loan arrangement.

Those "greater fools" are now in extremely short supply and the last ones who entered the Ponzi scheme are now getting fried.

Those of us who bought our houses at good value and have not mortgaged our equity away will do just fine.

We bought value. We did not buy a lifetime of mortgage slavery.

53 posted on 09/23/2006 11:14:49 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: GodGunsGuts
Foreigners, especially Asia, are diversifying out of US debt instruments. Long-term rates are set on the open market. If this continues, diminishing demand will drive long-term rates higher and higher. This is Economics 101.

Long term rates have been going down for months, and that trend is going to continue. Foreign central banks have already pulled back their purchases of bonds. Guess what? There have have been plenty of other buyers and rates keep going down.

54 posted on 09/23/2006 11:16:52 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Polybius
Those "greater fools" are now in extremely short supply and the last ones who entered the Ponzi scheme are now getting fried.

Yup.

55 posted on 09/23/2006 11:22:02 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: muawiyah

What if the Mullah's incinerate D.C.?


56 posted on 09/23/2006 11:30:09 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Polybius; stm

Beleive me, I've heard the argument ad nauseum and memorized it. My point, supply and demand works. If something is overpriced, don't buy it, and don't take out a ridiculous loan to leverage something you can't afford. Buy something small and out of the way and you'll do fine. Unlike the doomsayers, there is plenty of real estate under $150,000. Plenty. And if you can't find it in the place you want, well, when the dreaded "crash" comes, there will be.


57 posted on 09/23/2006 11:36:54 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Torie

I believe its located in the inner city area of Long Beach, in Los Angeles County.


58 posted on 09/23/2006 11:52:58 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: GodGunsGuts

doom


59 posted on 09/23/2006 11:57:42 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Moonman62

Here's what Trader Dan from JSMineset has to say on the subject:

Net Flows and Treasury Purchases


Dear Jim,

Attached are two charts – the first details the balance of trade and compares it to net capital flows for each month. As you can clearly see, this morning’s report on net flows was abysmal. The shortfall was the largest in the last 3 years detailed on this chart, coming in at - $35 billion.

The second chart details the rate of purchase of Treasuries by the big three Asian economies, China, Japan and S. Korea. I have also included Great Britain since I believe there are some “funny” goings on there with hedge fund buying of US paper going through London. Needless to say, they have been carrying the slack in the US debt market. Look at the huge percentage increase coming from Great Britain for the last two months when compared to 12 months ago.

In another one of those “counterintuitive” and “perverse” moves in the dollar that we are becoming accustomed to of late, the dollar basically shrugged off the data and instead, participants chose to focus instead of the G7 communique which was viewed as less “threatening” to the Asian currencies and thus dollar bullish.

As long as the interest rate differential between the yen and the dollar is where it is, the yen carry trade will remain in full force. This could help to explain the huge surge in Treasury buying out of London but I am convinced there is more to that than meets the eye. Regardless, the yen has become the whipping boy against the Euro and the dollar as a result. It seems as if everyone and their mother is selling the hapless thing. The Japanese monetary authorities must be jumping up and down in uncontrollable joy.

Best wishes from your pal,
Dan

Two PDF charts:

http://www.jsmineset.com/cwsimages/Miscfiles/3422_Charts_for_09-18-2006.pdf


60 posted on 09/23/2006 12:03:26 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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