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The Pope Was Right
LA Times ^ | 9/20/06 | George Weigel

Posted on 09/21/2006 1:43:10 AM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: L,TOWM
People on this site, for the most part, have no idea how uncomfortable most people in this nation get when you actually insist that there is a clear cut right and wrong
. . . but they have no trouble saying that making them uncomfortable is wrong!

And they are natural appeasers. "Moderates."


21 posted on 09/21/2006 5:13:59 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: L,TOWM

With abortion as one of the most glaring examples of how they try to blur the black and white into an indecipherable mush.


22 posted on 09/21/2006 5:16:28 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (OEF vet says: I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: LibWhacker

This is the best MSM article on the pope's comments published so far. It's also nicely succinct.


23 posted on 09/21/2006 5:16:28 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: L,TOWM
People on this site, for the most part, have no idea how uncomfortable most people in this nation get when you actually insist that there is a clear cut right and wrong.

I've debated some live and in person, and they shrink away like the Wicked Witch of the West when she was doused with water.

24 posted on 09/21/2006 5:19:12 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
And they are natural appeasers. "Moderates."

That's the root of it. It's fundamentally a character issue. They lack courage.

25 posted on 09/21/2006 5:20:21 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion; ColdSpringGirl

Good comment.


You have summarized what passes for discussion today for libs.
They prioritize their feelings over their thoughts because no one can contradict one's feelings, as one could debate another's thinking.


George Weigel is valuable reading for understanding Vatican matters. I'm actually surprised that the LATimes and their sister papers have published this.


26 posted on 09/21/2006 5:21:12 AM PDT by maica (9/11 was not “the day everything changed”, but the day that revealed how much had already changed.)
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To: GOP Poet

ditto


27 posted on 09/21/2006 5:30:06 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("By the time I'm finished with you, you're gonna wish you felt this good again" - Jack Bauer)
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To: maica

I'm going to have to dust off my LA times subscription password to read this remainder of this, thus far, superb article.


28 posted on 09/21/2006 5:33:49 AM PDT by Alia
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To: LibWhacker

Good read, thanks for posting.


29 posted on 09/21/2006 5:42:57 AM PDT by Fury
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To: the invisib1e hand
When the LA Times agrees with the Pope, how far away can Armageddon be?

The LA Times may have published the commentary, but George Weigel wrote a biography of John Paul II. He is something of a conservative Catholic.

30 posted on 09/21/2006 6:08:56 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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31 posted on 09/21/2006 6:11:59 AM PDT by NYer ("That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah." Hillel)
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To: excludethis
The Pope was clearly talking about our LIBERAL democrats when he said: "If the West's high culture keeps playing in the sandbox of postmodern irrationalism — in which there is "your truth" and "my truth" but nothing such as "the truth" — the West will be unable to defend itself."

The words you quoted were Weigel's characterization of one of the Pope's points, not what the Pope himself said. If you haven't had the opportunity to read the Pope's lecture, you can find it here.

32 posted on 09/21/2006 6:16:16 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Alia

When I followed the link, I didn't have to sign in to the LA Times site.


33 posted on 09/21/2006 6:18:43 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: LibWhacker

Why isn't this in Breaking News???!?


34 posted on 09/21/2006 6:32:27 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a pathological disorder masquerading as a religion.)
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To: LibWhacker
I believe this speech is going to be a crucial point in history. A reference point for the counter-offensive of the post-Christian west. An all-time great moment. A rallying cry. A religious equivalent of Reagan's "Mr. Gorbachev.......tear down this wall!!"

When the initial, unthinking furore has died down, I believe that the truth of Benedict's words will hit home to many people, including Muslims. Far from inciting a holy war, I'm sure that the words of the Holy Father will in fact have the opposite effect and result in improved Muslim/Christain relations, as crazy as that sounds right now.

35 posted on 09/21/2006 6:40:53 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: Aquinasfan

The author is George Weigel ... Of course it's good!


36 posted on 09/21/2006 6:45:24 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I suspect this is not the LA Times agreeing with Pope Benedict (which would be nice, actually) but George Weigel agreeing with Benedict (nice, too, but much more predictable.)


37 posted on 09/21/2006 7:20:02 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Pray for Pope Benedict. Lord, grant him a courageous heart, insight, fortitude, peace.)
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To: marshmallow
I believe this speech is going to be a crucial point in history. A reference point for the counter-offensive of the post-Christian west. An all-time great moment. A rallying cry. A religious equivalent of Reagan's "Mr.Gorbachev......tear down this wall!!"

When the initial,unthinking furore has died down,I believe that the truth of Benedict's words will hit home to many people,including Muslims. Far from inciting a holy war,I'm sure that the words of the Holy Father will in fact have the opposite effect and result in improved Muslim/Christain relations,as crazy as that sounds right now.

Thanks for your concise and I believe,accurate analysis of the import and impact of Pope Benedict's great invitation to dialogue.

38 posted on 09/21/2006 10:16:23 AM PDT by saradippity
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