Posted on 09/20/2006 10:32:34 AM PDT by tpaine
The IRS and the income tax itself are two of the most unjust, most detestable things about our government.
Not just out government ;O)
- When there is an income tax, the just man will pay more and the unjust less on the same amount of income.
That was not my experience, and it has not been the experience of anyone I know in law enforcement.
Nothing "lite" about it my FRiend! It IS communism!
Read all about it in The Manifesto of the Communist Party
but if half the people in this country strapped on some balls and said no to taxes, then the numbers would be so great that the IRS could not function.
Half the people in this country already pay zilch in income tax already. With more added everytime they tinker.
Bush touts relief as tax day looms
Another 3.9 million Americans will have their income tax liability completely eliminated, officials said.
That's 3.9 million Americans more added to the spending constituency of 70% of the public clamoring for more from government, figuring someone else foots the bill.
That just assures the system is perpetuated, with half the electorate making a natural spending constituency on backs of the other half.
Right now the bottom 50% perceive little to no "Individual Income Tax" burden,(in many cases even a handout) and 70% of the voting public clamor for more from government looking for the top 50% of income earners/producers to foot the bill. That perception continues to grow ever stronger by eliminating even more participants from the Federal Individual Income Tax rolls as proposed in the tax reduction proposals through changes in personal exemption limits and other mechanisms such as the EITC.
For where the income tax is more concerned with the Intent of the individual income tax as a vehicle for political and social control as opposed to revenue collection. The Individual Income tax is maintained to establish and hold every person in the country perpetual legal jeopardy, a legal jeopardy to be called on at whim for control of the individual or organization that may step beyond politically accepted bounds. A situation that must end with the repeal of the income tax from the statutes, and the prohibition of its use by Constitutional amendment that future generations will not face the same manner of manipulation and interference in their lives.
That was not my experience, and it has not been the experience of anyone I know in law enforcement.
Take it up with the Cato Institute, and the author.. They could probably cite many experiences to the contrary.
I doubt they publish articles containing unsupported allegations.
Ping for later
Thanks for the bumps, bump.
In many cases the IRS figures you rather pay your, say $50,000 (or whatever) to them that to gamble on paying the legal fees additionally as well.
Works for them.
It would be easier, cheaper, and cause massively LESS upheaval than some sort of Tax Protest (that's what the whole Tax Protester "industry" hopes for). that's not needed.
We merely need more taxpayers to stop sitting on their hands, looking at the floor, and saying "... it'll never happen ..." and to let their elected representatives know in no uncertain terms that they expect those reps to support and pass the FairTax.
Try to stay focused. This is an article and a thread about the FEDERAL income tax.
Yes, property taxes are a problem, but they need to be addressed at the state and local level. If you want to have a discussion, please start your own thread and many of will join in and discuss it, but this isn't thread to discuss property taxes any more than it would be to discuss any other issue, not matter its importance.
Thank you.
No, that one was "social services."
This, and filling the pockets of politicians and their cronies, is what taxes are all about. Control of the masses.
We have traveled quite a bit. From tax tyranny to tax freedom and back and back and back. What the Founders took offence to was a 3% tax on a good. Now we think 40% of our income is reasonable.
We traveled much, but as you said, we didn't go far. We went backwards.
you haven't heard chicken farmer before? she claims raised over 1000 c@(#$ last year.
"-- The broad-based income tax necessitates a large invasion of financial privacy that a low-rate consumption-based tax could avoid --"
This, and filling the pockets of politicians and their cronies, is what taxes are all about. Control of the masses.
Yep, -- makes you wonder why many 'conservatives' on FR oppose such a tax..
I don't think it's that hard to figure out why. Some people on here on FR will oppose ANYTHING that goes against whatever happens to be the official gubmint policy no matter how harmful it is.
What infuriates me is that they sell the list of people who have been notified of a change in their taxes to some outside marketers. That should be against the law.
Every few years, 6-8 or so, I used to get a notice that the IRS found some discrepancy in something like a stock price differential or some minerals income. Its was never much - maybe $50 or less.
They would send me a notice and within 1 day, I would receive 5-6 letters or even post cards from businesses that said in big letters "In Trouble with the IRS? Call So-and-So."
That's really fun when you have the neighbors pick up your mail if you're out of town or you just have your mail lying about on the kitchen table. I called the IRS about it, but they denied that anybody ever did that.
The only time I got those things was right after - and once, right before - an IRS notice. Who else would've given out that info? Grrrr.
True. They must be 'social conservatives' or some such.
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