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Some say voting law being used to scare minorities [TX]
Houston Chronicle Austin Bureau ^ | Sept. 19, 2006 | POLLY ROSS HUGHES

Posted on 09/19/2006 6:18:58 AM PDT by Dubya

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1 posted on 09/19/2006 6:19:00 AM PDT by Dubya
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Yet, of the 13 individuals indicted on charges of voter fraud by Abbott, 10 are accused of simply possessing another's absentee ballot for delivery to election officials or to a mailbox, Democrats say. Such activities had been legal until the 2003 law turned them into crimes.


Pure democrat bullshitte.

Covering up, as usual, democrat voter fraud.

2 posted on 09/19/2006 6:21:27 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Dubya

If it's a crime to put other people's absentee ballots in the mail, I can think of a few dozen scenarios where this law will prohibit people from voting.


3 posted on 09/19/2006 6:21:34 AM PDT by osideplanner
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You are encouraged to list them, in detail, with appropriate speculation as to the consequences, then.


4 posted on 09/19/2006 6:22:54 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (www.stjosephssanford.org)
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I'm not much for doing homework for people without life experience or imaginations. Here's a hint. Think seniors. Think assisted living for a start. Think about stupid impractical laws.


5 posted on 09/19/2006 6:25:01 AM PDT by osideplanner
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I've put my husband's ballots in the mail. I'm just the one who goes to the post office regularly.


6 posted on 09/19/2006 6:28:07 AM PDT by tiki
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To: osideplanner

All that notwithstanding, you appear to be much for picking the least probable and most easily allowed-for excecptional cases to dive-bomb an attempt to rein in actual crime.

Then again, if a disabled person cannot get to their personal mailbox, I suspect that having their caregiver walk the item, along with the rest of the mail to the box won't be something high on the deputies' work list.

Or would such be also something you're not much for?


7 posted on 09/19/2006 6:30:40 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (www.stjosephssanford.org)
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Willie Ray, a Texarkana city councilwoman, said she had hoped during the general election of 2004 to teach her granddaughter, Jamillah Johnson, 30, how to help the homebound.

How noble.

8 posted on 09/19/2006 6:34:12 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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TITLE: Some Say Voting Law Being Used To Scare Minorities

The only people who have to be scared are those who are engaged in illegal voting activities. It is interesting that it is the Democrats who are the most scared.
9 posted on 09/19/2006 6:34:40 AM PDT by Pirate21 (The liberal media are as sheep clearing the path along which they will be lead to the slaughter.)
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One wonders where these people are that mail doesn't get picked up.

I remember the election of 1960, where between Cook county IL. and west Texas, enough votes were manufactured to steal two states. Some counties in West Texas had 180 percent turnout! Without those two states Kennedy would have lost. Later, when Nixon won, the Democrats complained about "dirty tricks". Surely the voter fraud as described in this article is the ultimate dirty trick.


10 posted on 09/19/2006 6:34:49 AM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: BelegStrongbow
Thanx for acknowledging my point.

You say the law is needed to cut down on voting crime and then you point out how the police probably won't waste time enforcing it. Make up your mind.

11 posted on 09/19/2006 6:35:46 AM PDT by osideplanner
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To: donmeaker

I'm responding to the part of the law that seems to address who puts it in the mail. I think that's ridiculous and unenforcable. What's important is who printed the ballot, filled it out etc.


12 posted on 09/19/2006 6:37:08 AM PDT by osideplanner
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To: tiki

Watch out! Some folks here would have you arrested. LOL!


13 posted on 09/19/2006 6:37:42 AM PDT by osideplanner
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Silly retort. I mean that the police, who have some little training in this kind of thing, can probably tell the difference between the case I cited and one where some black wardheeler is trucking a dozen or more 'absentee ballots' (all of which she filled out herself) down to the precinct.

Even you can make that gross a distinction, yes?


14 posted on 09/19/2006 6:37:49 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (www.stjosephssanford.org)
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Stop underhanded tactics Former state Rep. Steve Wolens, a Democrat from Dallas, authored the 2003 law creating criminal penalties for individuals who knowingly possess or transport another voter's ballot.

It's those nasty racists democrats who did this and passed all those Jim Crow laws as well.

Actually, if it clearly states that it's illegal to do this on the mail-in ballots, then these folks have no excuse.

Gloria Meeks of Fort Worth, also 69, said she stepped out of her morning bath last month and screamed.

Two voter fraud investigators from Attorney General Greg Abbott's office were peeking in her bathroom window, Meeks said in a sworn statement. Abbott's office declined to discuss specifics but said its investigation of Meeks has been "conducted professionally and properly, to the full extent allowed by law."

You can tell it's going to be a biased article when...

15 posted on 09/19/2006 6:39:19 AM PDT by DrewsDad
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I may be silly, but your comments are contradictory. And I guess you don't think an unenforcable, impractical law is silly, just me.

In your example, the person filling out the illegal ballots is putting them in the mail. Not addressing the part of the law I was talking about. But hey! Silly me.

16 posted on 09/19/2006 6:39:59 AM PDT by osideplanner
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If it's a crime to put other people's absentee ballots in the mail...

It is an affirmative defense to prosecution, however, if the person assisting the voter is a relative, a registered voter living at the same address or if the individual provides his or her printed name, signature and address on the outside of the envelope carrying the ballot.

There is no crime if you mark on the envelope that you handled the absentee ballot.

17 posted on 09/19/2006 6:43:44 AM PDT by Stegall Tx (Pray often. Vote early. Vote often.)
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The law requires only that the person who puts it in the mail to put their name on the outside. That would identify the corrupt vote manufacturers, because they don't do it by 1s and 2s. It would be interesting to see what an honest election looks like in some democratic strongholds.

A friend of mine ran for "county Judge" rather like a county mayor in one county in Texas. The local democratic party held a barbecue at the "traditionally Black college" in the county, and got nearly all the students, most of which were from out of state, or had previously voted in another county, to fill out ballots.

Surprise! the Democratic state attorney general didn't care to investigate, inspite of the 100 signed affidavits that the locals produced. The Democrat candidate won, still pale from being released after serving time for his felony.


18 posted on 09/19/2006 6:44:28 AM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: Stegall Tx

Thanx. Now that makes sense.


19 posted on 09/19/2006 6:45:12 AM PDT by osideplanner
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To: donmeaker

I always laugh at how the threads point out how machines can be hacked by several contortionists. We have such a rich tradition of corruption, I don't think we can have a failproof system. In my lifetime the dems have been very creative.


20 posted on 09/19/2006 6:46:57 AM PDT by osideplanner
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