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GOP talk of vibrant economy rings hollow
Yahoo News ^ | 9-18-06 | LIZ SIDOTI

Posted on 09/18/2006 5:32:03 AM PDT by Hydroshock

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To: Hydroshock

Wow, tough crowd, huh?


41 posted on 09/18/2006 5:57:47 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Hydroshock
Kentucky's was 6.3 percent, Ohio's was 5.8 percent, Indiana's came in at 5.7 percent and West Virginia's at 5.4 percent — all higher than the national average.

Oh the horrors!!!!!!!!!! 4 states have unemployment rates higher than the national average. Who would think. And since when is 5.4-6.3% unemployment considered high? Answer, since Bush got into office.

42 posted on 09/18/2006 6:00:11 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Hydroshock

I lived in the rural Ohio River Valley for a while back in the rah rah Clinton years. It was no better then. This is Appalachia. It's always been poor and it always will be until the people change their mindset.

By and large, higher education isn't valued or considered attainable--getting on "permanent" at the mill is most peoples' greatest aspiration. "Permanent" meaning getting into the union. But the unions have been pricing people out of their jobs for years, so there are fewer and fewer union jobs.

Until these people get out of the mindset that the union will take care of them, and failing that, the government will take care of them, many will be poor. Who is president has absolutely nothing to do with it.

I do agree that we will see more articles like this as the election appraches. And the MSM, of course, will act like poverty in Appalachia is something new since January 2001.


43 posted on 09/18/2006 6:00:32 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: RebelBanker

Hydroshock is like willie green without the intelligence and trains.


44 posted on 09/18/2006 6:01:31 AM PDT by Toby06 (Hydrogen is not a fuel source! Hydrogen is an energy storage method, like a battery.)
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To: LadyNavyVet
I lived in the rural Ohio River Valley for a while back in the rah rah Clinton years. It was no better then. This is Appalachia. It's always been poor and it always will be until the people change their mindset.

You mean this mindset?

"the yooon-yun says so"
"My daddy was a Democrat, so I am too, even though I'm pro-gun, anti-abortion, anti gay marriage, and pro-family"
"Whut educashun?

45 posted on 09/18/2006 6:03:14 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: Hydroshock
In the Ohio River Valley, where people decry high gas prices...

What???? Gas prices are $2.16 at the BP in Louisville, KY according to Gasbuddy.com. The Ohio River Valley contains most of Ohio, Kentucky, W VA, Indiana and Illinois. If you look at gasbuddy.com homepage, you see Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana in the top 10 cheapest states for gas.

What a sack of lies and propaganda.

46 posted on 09/18/2006 6:03:40 AM PDT by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: Toby06
Hydroshock is like willie green without the intelligence and trains.

Come on! Don't you want the economy to collapse?/sarcasm off

47 posted on 09/18/2006 6:03:54 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Hydroshock
"a ponytailed Republican who voted for Democrat John Kerry in 2004."

lol. This is their idea of a fair and balanced survey of opinion. lol.

48 posted on 09/18/2006 6:05:22 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: Hydroshock
"Everything from a loaf of bread to a pair of shoes," seems to cost more, said Ronald Barrett, 70, a Democrat supervising a group doing community service on Scottsburg's quaint town square in Indiana.

Seems? ....Reality will NOT be allowed to intrude the "sky is falling" lock on the democrat mind....

49 posted on 09/18/2006 6:05:50 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: Hydroshock

"At a nearby diner, waitress Jeanine Gordon, 32, who makes the minimum wage, mused about her latest trouble —"

I think this is misleading. Servers who work for tips are paid a meager wage by their employers. It is different than the 'minimum wage'. The bulk of their income is from tips. Also, this is nothing new, raises haven't kept up with prices since the '70s as far as I remember. I am lucky to get a one or two percent raise now and then.


50 posted on 09/18/2006 6:10:25 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: Hydroshock; cyn

I spent 3 days around Wheeling, WV 2 weeks ago. I became physically ill at what I saw. I have never in my life seen such horrible poverty and despair in the eyes of the people. The town is gutted and old factories line the streets like burned-out shells. I saw street after street of homes with no windows, and broken down walls and roofs filled with the poor who used to make a living there. We got lost and ended up in this neighborhood and I saw a woman who obviously was trying to recover from a stroke. She was walking the street with a walking cane and a shriveled hand in a house coat. Her eyes pierced my heart. With the collapse of the steel industry and so many others, the manufacturing base which fed our people and offered hope to our citizens, what's left in its wake is what I've just described. I don't want to hear a defense of one party or another. But what I would like to hear is some Washington politician meeting with the Wheeling city officials and putting a plan into action that would start to correct what supposed free-trade has wrought. Any takers out there Washington???


51 posted on 09/18/2006 6:11:35 AM PDT by PrepareToLeave (Fight on Christian soldiers!)
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To: Hydroshock

Pelosi's "rank-and-file portrays an economy under Republicans that leaves behind the poor and hinders the middle class."

Gosh, so does Sidoti's story. I wonder how that happened. This should really be covered under campaign finance laws as a contribution for Dems.


52 posted on 09/18/2006 6:12:42 AM PDT by Gothmog
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To: PrepareToLeave

There won't be any takers.


53 posted on 09/18/2006 6:13:37 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: PrepareToLeave

The fact is, you can't sustain manufacturing when wages were propped up to 3 times market levels due to unions.


54 posted on 09/18/2006 6:16:01 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: Toby06; All
I agree. If you can't find a job in your locality it is best to move (which I happen to be doing).

I agree about the personal anecdotal evidence, it is getting old..
55 posted on 09/18/2006 6:16:23 AM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: RockinRight

You can't sustain manufacturing when there are guys in another country willing to do the work for a tenth of our minimum wage. The unions, such as they are, aren't even a factor in the global economy.


56 posted on 09/18/2006 6:17:47 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: RockinRight

There's plenty of blame to go around. The unions aren't the only ones motivated by greed. That being said. We have a situation here that needs addressed. This is America for God's sake.


57 posted on 09/18/2006 6:19:17 AM PDT by PrepareToLeave (Fight on Christian soldiers!)
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To: durasell

True enough. But what other option do we have? "Forcing" companies to only manufacture here will, among other things, drive prices up and totally wash-out any benefit to higher wages.


58 posted on 09/18/2006 6:19:38 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: PrepareToLeave

We have a situation here that needs addressed. This is America for God's sake.




They used to say the same thing in every ghetto in every major metropolitan area of the country. Then after awhile they just stopped saying it.


59 posted on 09/18/2006 6:22:09 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Steel Wolf
Having lived outside of the US for several years, and traveled to many countries I'd support Steel Wolfs comments 100%.

Take a trip sometime outside of the tourist spots and you will see real poverty. Not the dvd / satellite enabled homes our "poor" live in. Real muds huts, living in graveyards, 100 people crammed onto a bus.

If you watched the Path to 9/11 closely you can see what some of this looked like.

We should ship our MSM and several politicians (Teddy, John K, Hillary , Chuckie S )there to live for awhile and then ask them what "poverty" is.....
60 posted on 09/18/2006 6:22:10 AM PDT by patriotspride
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