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Drug can help prevent Type 2 diabetes
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | September 16, 2006 | MARILYNN MARCHIONE AND MARIA CHENG

Posted on 09/17/2006 6:57:42 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: muawiyah

Type II diabetes is mainly hereditary only because you learn to eat and exercise like your family....


61 posted on 09/18/2006 8:38:59 AM PDT by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: neverdem
Hey, when the manufacturer tells you it can kill you, what more can you say?

I trust manufacturers much more than any interest group. That's because when the drug fails due to their having not informed folks they can be sued. Interest groups can't.

62 posted on 09/18/2006 8:53:01 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jammer
Absolutely, unless you already have heart trouble or liver disease of some sort, both of which are exceedingly common among Type II diabetics.

Since everybody using metaformin is NOT under the control of diet and exercise alone, the probability of having those other problems is very high.

The dose of metaformin in the combined drug is far less than the dose in a prescription for metaformin alone too.

63 posted on 09/18/2006 8:55:53 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: c-b 1
120, You might want to do some research, my doctor says that is waaay too low. Your brain runs on colestrol, I don't know about you, but my brain doesn't work well enough when it's well fed.

My total cholesterol has been 110 - 115 for the past 10 years.

Maybe that explains my brain stalls!

64 posted on 09/18/2006 9:00:04 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: goodnesswins
No, its hereditary because I have a digestive system attuned to thousands of years of following the large herds of animals around Northwest and Central Asia.

Remember the Ice Man discovered near the glacier at the Austrian and Italian borders? Every Spring he went up the mountains to take the herds to higher meadows. He lived there all summer eating a low glycemic diet with plenty of fatty meat.

In the Fall and Winter he returned to the villages in the valleys where he became ill eating their high carbohydrate diet.

Same thing with Type IIs. Your food is killing us.

65 posted on 09/18/2006 9:00:43 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Are you referring to the 'Eat right for your Blood Type' theory?


66 posted on 09/18/2006 9:33:20 AM PDT by Badray (While defending the land called America, we must also be sure to preserve the Idea called America.)
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To: muawiyah
Hey, when the manufacturer tells you it can kill you, what more can you say?

Are you referring to this?

heart failure. Avandia can cause your body to keep extra fluid (fluid retention), which leads to swelling and weight gain. Extra body fluid can make some heart problems worse or lead to heart failure.

That heart failure is treatable. It's from fluid overload. If the patient is symptomatic with shortness of breath, that's congestive heart failure from excess fluid in the lungs. Stop the drug and diurese the patient. Avandia is one of a number of oral agents for type 2 diabetics. All of them can have adverse effects. Most patients want to max out on oral therapy before they are forced to take insulin injections.

All of the patients in the study were treatable in the study, IIRC. I believe there was at least one study of metformin to prevent diabetes in folks with impaired fasting glucose or abnormal glucose tolerance tests. IIRC, it also worked. As I said before on this thread, I would go for diet and exercise before any drugs.

67 posted on 09/18/2006 10:01:37 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Badray

No.


68 posted on 09/18/2006 2:13:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: neverdem

Yes, diet and exercise first. And, if you have any liver disease, even an undiagnosed liver disease, you should avoid avandia until you have been thoroughly checked.


69 posted on 09/18/2006 2:14:28 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Okay, thanks. Your comments reminded me of that book. It was interesting but I'm not yet convinced that it's a reliable theory.


70 posted on 09/18/2006 2:37:17 PM PDT by Badray (While defending the land called America, we must also be sure to preserve the Idea called America.)
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To: preacher
This is going to sound completely crazy, but that sold as "cinnamon"..?

IT IS NOT CINNAMON --it's something else that tastes remarkably similar to cinnamon and is really cheap.

The metabolic effect of cinnamon DOES exist as described above, but ONLY for REAL cinnamon.

Crazy, huh? It's TRUE.

Funny thing is there's no law against selling this other crap as "cinnamon" --they can legally put that on the label, even though it's a huge lie.

One rolls up as a scroll (both sides) and the other as a simple tube --consistently.

I don't remember which is which.

71 posted on 09/18/2006 5:29:13 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

My latest cholesterol test was 120. That's a real figure. Cinnamon is cheap & tastes good so what the hell.


72 posted on 09/19/2006 5:50:39 AM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: preacher
I also recommend that you look into Red Yeast Rice. Screwy name, huh? Also cheap as hell.

And effective.

73 posted on 09/19/2006 12:21:36 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

From: http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSIHW000/8513/31402/346470.html?d=dmtContent

Since the 1970s, there have been reports that red yeast lowers cholesterol and triglyceride levels, helping atherosclerosis or congenital heart disease. In March 2001, a U.S. District Court ruled that the red yeast rice extract product Cholestin contained the same chemical as the prescription cholesterol-lowering drug lovastatin (Mevacor) and therefore could not be sold without a prescription. This product is no longer available in the United States, but other products containing red yeast rice extract can still be purchased, mostly on the Internet.

According to the manufacturer’s website (accessed August, 2001), new and improved Cholestin contains policosanol, a natural product from the wax of honey bees. It no longer contains any red yeast. Policosanols are potent inhibitors of cholesterol synthesis and have been well-studied in clinical trials in Cuba and South America. As of June 14, 2005, the manufacturer's website says that Cholestin recently has been reformulated with a unique proprietary blend of ingredients, including Lipidol.


74 posted on 09/19/2006 1:53:01 PM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: preacher
I buy it regularly, right off the shelf in Albertson's.

Last time I did this was 2 days ago.

75 posted on 09/19/2006 1:59:58 PM PDT by gaijin
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