House Leader Boehner Refuses to Rule Out Immigration Deal With Senate [Rep.Hayworth No To Shamnesty]

Human Events ^ | Sept. 11, 2006 | Amanda B. Carpenter

[Soul Seeker]

I'm sorry.

I read you post.

Explain how this...

I guess that means we need to vote out the GOP senators that want amnesty?

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Right. Since it is actually the Senate, not the house that wants amnesty.

I'm sure you have a coherant point in there somewhere, but I can't find it. It sounds like you are stating we should protect even amnesty Republicans because the House as a whole is for enforcement, and focus solely on the Senate. That is, if you aren't simply throwing out two separate disjointed statements.

If the first is what you intended, forget it. I'm not supporting an amnesty Congressman because the Majority of the House has its head on straight. Instead I'll work to get border conservatives challengers elected elsewhere where I can.

If you are making separate points, fine, I'll address them separately.

If your Senator supports amnesty, you are looking at someone that does not care whether they win or lose. Absolutely.

Second point, yes, the House is protecting us from amnesty not the Senate. What's your point?

[tennmountainman]

Instead of alienating many freepers with lectures, you should be encouraging the President and Confress to pass a ENFORCEMENT FIRST bill in both the house and senate. Then the GOP would not have to be concerned at possible poor conservative turn out.

If fear of the democrats is the only arguement you have, it won't fire up a portion of the base that has just about had enough.

You fire that portion of the base up by passing an ENFORCEMENT FIRST BILL,
Then you start cutting out of control spending etc. etc.

[bybybill]

Don`t argue like a Rat and try to put words in my mouth. Never called anybody here unpatriotic. THis old Marine knows what those words mean and I don`t use them lightly.
But, please, think about the consequences of a Rat victory. If I have to use violins or base drums to get the message across, so be it. We can not lose this election,we can`t afford it.

[tennmountainman]

My point is it is the GOP MAJORITY SENATE that wants amnesty.

Vote the senators that want amnesty OUT! Regardless of who will control the next senate.

[bybybill]

In other words, you, as the head of the "Base", have decided that unless your get your way, to h#ll with everything else. Well, guess what, there isn`t going to be an enforcement first bill, not with this Congress, and not with the next. Ain`t going to happen. That`s the real world, and if you can`t deal with that, I`m sorry.
So now, what are YOU going to do? Hide under the bed? Let the Rats win the next election? As for fear of the Rats, you better believe I`m afraid of them. I sure don`t want the Kerrys of this world running things.

[tennmountainman]

Well I guess we shall see how the GOP grassroots reacts on election day, with Open Borders Policies, Out of control Spending Policies, Failure to Punish Clintonista's (Like Sandy Burger) etc.

Time will tell if the path the President, the GOP congress and and the GOP Senate has taken on issues dear to many conservations will be what the majority wants.

If I don't vote, don't lose any s;eep over it. There will be a felon of illegal to take the place of my vote.

[muawiyah]

The second you put limits on donors and donations you end up with nothing but the big money boys running everything.

Remember, they hire folks who figure out how to get around the law. A poor man doesn't have such resources.

[CottonBall]

Pouting? Holding our breath?

Do you really think that insulting people is the way to persuade them to do what you want? I'd call your tactics of putting people down because we disagree with you juvenile behavior. The pot and kettle thing.

[upchuck]

How do you, "end up with nothing but the big money boys running everything."

[bybybill]

What`s that old saying, if the shoe fits..........The Tancredo clan has been acting like a bunch of spoiled brats on the whole issue of illegals. While they claim to be the base, they don`t win elections. (Ut., California)
Sure, the Republican Congress should have done more, has there ever been a Congress that got everything right? So far, nobody in the party is happy about the border situation. But getting positive changes is going to mean some compromise. The Constitution is a compromise as is 99.9999% of all legislation.

[bybybill]

What`s that old saying, if the shoe fits..........The Tancredo clan has been acting like a bunch of spoiled brats on the whole issue of illegals. While they claim to be the base, they don`t win elections. (Ut., California)
Sure, the Republican Congress should have done more, has there ever been a Congress that got everything right? So far, nobody in the party is happy about the border situation. But getting positive changes is going to mean some compromise. The Constitution is a compromise as is 99.9999% of all legislation.

[CottonBall]

Sure, the Republican Congress should have done more, has there ever been a Congress that got everything right?

LOL! Exactly what piece of legislation on illegal immigration has this Congress passed, the President signed, and has been enacted? You sound like they've actually accomplished something!

[muawiyah]

Because they have more money ~ they can purchase the assistance of slick lawyers and political fixers to get around the law.

They can also purchase the compliance of Senators and Congresscritters in writing the law so they are exempted from the controls and only the little guy who's involved in a political party gets crushed.

[upchuck]

Because they have more money ~ they can purchase the assistance of slick lawyers and political fixers to get around the law.

They can also purchase the compliance of Senators and Congresscritters in writing the law so they are exempted from the controls and only the little guy who's involved in a political party gets crushed.

Would it be safe for me to assume you feel this isn't happening now?

[California Patriot]

Ye gods. Will these people never learn?

[muawiyah]

Here I am posting a very "pretend" post filled with cynicism, and you ask such strange questions. Didn't you catch that phrase I concocted to name my new invention?

[upchuck]

Sorry, you lost me.