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Rules of Evidence: A new Senate report on Iraq and al Qaeda ignores everything which . . .
Weekly Standard ^ | 09/08/2006 | Thomas Joscelyn

Posted on 09/09/2006 4:46:18 AM PDT by rhema

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To: Mo1; Howlin; SE Mom; Txsleuth

Ping..of course this is not news to any of us.


41 posted on 09/09/2006 8:21:51 AM PDT by hipaatwo (Vote for your life. Every vote for a Democrat is a vote against victory.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

To blunt or nullify the democrap party mountain of lies requires a media willing to air truth. That is not the case in America today where the lamestream BM (big media) is thoroughly on its knees before the beloved democrats. The lies will carry the elections because the American people will be fed only the lies when the timing is right. The Russerts and Matthews of media are in full tilt propaganda mode, and feeling oh so important as they shape the future of America into the image of liberal leftist degeneracy they worship in the democrat party. May God have mercy on America, the once land of the brave, the home of truth, the realm of freedom. The propaganda arm of the leftist democrat party is fully engaged in promoting lies and manipulating the public. Islam's demon god must be so pleased with the fool democrats and their twisted minions. america will be such an easy target in the near future as democrat impeach and remove the Commander-in-Chief and dismantle the only means we have to resist the evil of Islamofascism.


42 posted on 09/09/2006 8:30:35 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: hipaatwo
So this report is based on the word of Saddam and his top goons???

Oh Good Lord ... these people are going to get us killed
43 posted on 09/09/2006 9:07:10 AM PDT by Mo1 (Think about it .. A Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be 2 seats away from being President)
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To: Mo1

The last sentence in the article says it all



It was about giving certain senators more ammunition against the president.


44 posted on 09/09/2006 9:11:46 AM PDT by hipaatwo (Vote for your life. Every vote for a Democrat is a vote against victory.)
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To: Mo1; Peach; Howlin; All

Hat tip Flopping aces (much more at the link)


At 9 PM EST tonight CBS' new program "60 Minutes II" will feature a
report on Iraq's continuing nuclear threat and on inspections by the
International Atomic Energy Agency in Iraq. The Nuclear Control
Institute participated in the preparation of the report and urges all to
tune in.

The Iraqi Nat'l Assembly will conclude its two-day extraordinary
session tomorrow. The next "Iraq News" will provide an update on the
ongoing, vituperative exchanges between Iraq and other Arabs.

Meanwhile, it seemed useful to review an issue that arose following
last month's US/UK air strikes-Iraq, Osama bin Ladin, and Muslim
Fundamentalists. That question received far more attention in the
Arabic press, than it did in the US press, where Newsweek, Jan 11 [see
"Iraq News," Jan 6] seemed alone in addressing the issue.

On Dec 26, as AP reported, Al Sharq Al Awsat published an interview
with bin Ladin in which he said, "'The British and the American people
loudly declared their support for their leaders' decision to attack
Iraq. ' . . . This made it 'the duty of Muslims to confront, fight and
kill' Britons and Americans."

A series of articles followed in the international, particularly
Arabic, press about links between Iraq and bin Ladin. Some party/ies
wanted to put the story out, it seems. Some information in the articles
is known and reliable, like the role of Hassan Turabi, head of Sudan's
Islamic movement, in putting Osama bin Ladin in contact with Iraqi
intelligence, during bin Ladin's residence in Khartoum. But other
information would not likely be known to outsiders and seems invented.

That said, on Dec 28, the Italian paper, Corriere della Sera, reported
"Saddam Husayn and Osama Bin Ladin have sealed a pact. Faruq Hijazi,
the former director of the Iraqi secret services and now the country's
ambassador to Turkey, held a secret meeting with the extremist leader on
21 December. . . . Hijazi reiterated Iraq's amenability to offering
shelter to Osama and to his mujahedin, 'You will always be a welcome
guest. . . We cannot forget our debt of gratitude. This was a reference
to the establishment last February of the 'International Islamic Front
against the Crusaders and the Jews,' announced by Osama in the midst of
one of the periodic crises between Iraq and the United Nations. . . The
same ritual was reenacted during the most recent crisis. The day after
the air strikes, Osama called an international news conference and
issued a new statement, including threats that neither Washington nor
London are taking lightly. . . . "

On Jan 1, the Paris-based, Al Watan Al Arabi, reported that in late
Oct, 98, an Iraqi and Sudanese visited bin Ladin in Afghanistan.
"Informed intelligence sources . . . were convinced that it was part of
a new plan for cooperation and coordination, or more accurately a
renewed one, between Iraq, bin Ladin and Sudan. Information available
to these sources confirmed that bin-Ladin began to establish close ties
with Iraq at least five years ago, specifically when the leader of
Muslim extremists chose to reside in Sudan with the blessing and
protection of Dr. Hassan al-Turabi, leader of the National Islamic
Movement. These sources asserted that they received in the past few
years confirmed and detailed information that cooperation between bin
Ladin and Iraq entered 'an important and grave stage' through their
cooperation in the field of producing chemical and biological weapons.
"Al Watan al-Arabi's information indicated that several western
diplomatic and security sources, including European ones, which have
good relations with Sudan, warned in secret reports they sent at the end
of last year that Iraq, Sudan, and bin Ladin were cooperating and
coordinating in the field of chemical weapons. These reports said that
several chemical factories were built in Sudan. They were financed by
bin Ladin and supervised by Iraqi experts and technicians following a
deal between Baghdad, Khartoum, and bin-Ladin. . . .
"Informed sources asserted that the meeting was extremely serious.
The two sides laid down the details of the biggest act of cooperation
and coordination between the extremist Islamic organizations and Baghdad
for confronting the United States, the common enemy. This information
indicated that the meeting focused on the ways with which Iraq could
help the germ and chemical weapons laboratories.
A second meeting was held later in which "Bin Ladin stressed to the
Iraqi envoys that he could reach areas, which the Iraqi intelligence
could not reach. He referred to the spread of his cells in the Arab
countries and the world and focused on his ability to penetrate Arab and
Islamic countries through fundamentalist groups."

http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1999/01/990127-in.htm


45 posted on 09/09/2006 9:18:39 AM PDT by hipaatwo (Vote for your life. Every vote for a Democrat is a vote against victory.)
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To: hipaatwo
It was about giving certain senators more ammunition against the president.

That's the thing ... this war is not about the President

It is about the future of our country and and the future of Americans

Besides the fact .. Bush ain't running for President again

46 posted on 09/09/2006 9:19:47 AM PDT by Mo1 (Think about it .. A Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be 2 seats away from being President)
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To: rhema

ping


47 posted on 09/09/2006 9:33:15 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: rhema

What I don't understand .. why the media is re-releasing this story which was already released in 2004 - and was the leading reason for the "Bush lied" mantra from the dems.

And .. I don't understand why the CHAIRMAN of this Senate Intel Committee was not the one to release this supposed "revelation" .. maybe because he already did 2 years ago. This appears to be more of the "Shadow Govt" we've been hearing about for a while now.


48 posted on 09/09/2006 11:44:34 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: rhema

bump


49 posted on 09/09/2006 11:53:00 AM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: rhema

Arm yourself with Peach's long list of links. I have, and I have won many an argument by overwhelming my foolish and ill-informed liberal-leftist opponents with links to articles they simply cannot dismiss, such as those from the NYT, and many other liberal news organs... before 2001. I dismiss those same debate opponents as either non-serious or venal in their judgements if they refuse to face facts after that.


50 posted on 09/09/2006 4:58:02 PM PDT by Richard Axtell
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