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Bush transfers 14 CIA detainees to Gitmo
AP on Yahoo ^ | 9/6/06 | Nedra Pickler - ap

Posted on 09/06/2006 10:34:53 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: camas
we have a lease of 45 sq miles forever.

I'd call that a long term lease.

21 posted on 09/06/2006 11:00:48 AM PDT by b4its2late (FOOTBALL REFEREES: Best seat in the house, and we're paid to be there.)
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ap article update

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/terror/20060906-1033-bush.html

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WASHINGTON – President Bush has transferred 14 key terrorist leaders from secret CIA custody to the U.S. military-run prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to be prepared for eventual trials, a senior administration official said Wednesday.

The high-value suspected terrorists include Khalid Sheik Mohammed, believed to be the No. 3 al-Qaeda leader before he was captured in Pakistan in 2003; Ramzi Binalshibh, an alleged would-be Sept. 11, 2001, hijacker; and Abu Zubaydah, who was believed to be a link between Osama bin Laden and many al-Qaeda cells before he was also captured in Pakistan, in March 2002.

Bush was revealing the move in a speech from the White House, with families of those killed in the 2001 attacks making up part of the audience. The announcement, which the White House touted beforehand and hoped would be televised live on several networks, comes as Bush has sought with a series of speeches to sharpen the focus on national security two months before high-stakes congressional elections.

The president successfully emphasized the war on terror in his re-election campaign in 2004 and is trying to make it a winning issue again for Republicans this year.

The announcement from Bush is the first time the administration has acknowledged the existence of CIA prisons, which have been a source of friction between Washington and some allies in Europe. The administration has come under criticism for its treatment of terrorism detainees. European Union lawmakers said the CIA was conducting clandestine flights in Europe to take terror suspects to countries where they could face torture.

Bush was also announcing his proposal for how trials of such key suspected terrorists – those transferred to Guantanamo and already there – should be conducted, which must be approved by Congress. Bush's original plan for the type of military trials used in the aftermath of World War II was struck down in June by the Supreme Court, which said the tribunals would violate U.S. and international law.

Pushing a hard line with legislation he promoting for Capitol Hill consideration later Wednesday, Bush was insisting on military tribunals in which evidence would be withheld from a defendant if necessary to protect classified information.

The official, who spoke only on grounds of anonymity because the president's announcement was still pending, said the suspects transferred to Guantanamo would be afforded some legal protections consistent with the Geneva conventions.

Sen. John Warner, chairman of the Armed Services Committee, and Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham have drafted a rival proposal. It would guarantee certain legal rights to defendants, including access to all evidence used against them.

“I think it's important that we stand by 200 years of legal precedents concerning classified information because the defendant should have a right to know what evidence is being used,” said McCain, R-Ariz., who was among the Senate leaders briefed ahead of time on Bush's plan.

Administration officials also have said that allowing coerced testimony in some cases may be necessary, while McCain said the committee bill would ban it entirely.

“We have some differences that we are in discussion about,” said McCain, who had not seen the White House bill in writing. “I believe we can work this out.”

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., is expected to side with the administration. He planned to introduce Wednesday the White House legislative proposal on the floor and refer it to the Armed Services Committee for review.

Frist “believes it is a dangerous idea that terrorists and those around them automatically receive classified information about the means and methods used in the war on terror,” said a senior Frist aide.

Senate Democrats so far are in agreement with Warner and McCain, setting up a potential showdown on the floor this month just before members leave for midterm elections.

“It's going to get worked out,” White House press secretary Tony Snow declared. Asked if the White House will negotiate with the lawmakers, he replied, “It may be that the Hill is willing to negotiate.”

Also on Wednesday, the Pentagon was releasing a new Army manual that spells out appropriate conduct on issues including prisoner interrogation. The manual applies to all the armed services, but not the CIA.

The United States began using the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base in eastern Cuba in January 2002 to hold people suspected of links to al-Qaeda or the Taliban. About 445 detainees remain there, including 115 considered eligible for transfer or release.

The president has said he eventually wants to close Guantanamo as critics and allies around the world have urged. But Snow said Bush wasn't announcing any such plan now.

Guantanamo has been a flashpoint for both U.S. and international debate over the treatment of detainees without trial and the source of allegations of torture, denied by U.S. officials. Even U.S. allies have criticized the facility and process.

The camp came under worldwide condemnation after it opened more than four years ago, when pictures showed prisoners kneeling, shackled and being herded into wire cages. It intensified with reports of heavy-handed interrogations, hunger strikes and suicides.


22 posted on 09/06/2006 11:11:33 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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Sounds good to me- send those 14 rats down there and let all the other rats at gitmo think that these new rats squealed. Kind of like throwing candy to starving rats.


23 posted on 09/06/2006 11:12:41 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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I would have felt better if Bush had announced, "it's possible that the Democrats may take control of Congress this fall. God help us if that happens, because Nancy Pelosi will probably want these particular killers to be immediately released and compensated for any inconvenience they may have suffered at the hands of our wonderful troops. As your President, I've sworn to protect America against all enemies foreign and domestic. There's not much I can do about Nancy, but I wanted to make absolutely sure these Jihadists won't lift another finger against America. So I had them all shot, except for Sheik Kaled. He fell out of the back of a helicopter. Sorry 'bout that, Kaled. Heh."


24 posted on 09/06/2006 11:23:50 AM PDT by Clioman
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To: ichabod1

Thanks for the responses. I got busy at work and had to leave for a few. The response are very helpful. Appreciate it.


25 posted on 09/06/2006 11:44:45 AM PDT by Integrityrocks
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We have a perpetual lease on Guantanamo Bay. It was implemented after the US liberated Cuba in the Spanish American War. The lease runs in perpetuity, until the US voluntarily gives it up - which will never happen. The US pays some amount to the Cuban government annually for that lease... but rumor has it that as an act of "protest" Castro never cashes the check.

BTW - even the moonbattiest conspiracy theories about the tortures hapening to terrorists at Gitmo doesn't come close to the horrors committed to political dissenters in te jail on the Cuban side of the fence.


26 posted on 09/06/2006 11:58:43 AM PDT by sanchmo (If we wish to learn what was going on in Europe in 1938, just look around - V.D. Hanson)
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To: new yorker 77

A bit Jane Pauley like. I knew a Nedra once, she was a blonde hottie. But I couldn't ever quite get past that name, Nedra. Said she was named after her grandpa, Ned.


27 posted on 09/06/2006 12:23:01 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Freedom of religion means freedom to practice IslamĀ®)
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To: Integrityrocks

It dates back to the Platt Amendment (March 1901) which stipulated the conditions for the withdrawal of US troops remaining in Cuba after the Spanish-American War. One of the conditions for withdrawal was that Guantanamo Bay be ceded to the US.


28 posted on 09/06/2006 12:31:03 PM PDT by FewsOrange
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