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Dublin's a Feast for the Literary Pilgrim [Fall in love with Dublin]
Newhouse News ^ | 9/5/2006 | Laura T. Ryan

Posted on 09/06/2006 7:54:07 AM PDT by Incorrigible

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To: Xenalyte; Incorrigible; Physicist; RadioAstronomer; Irish_Thatcherite; Happygal
All of this phenomenal literary activity is directly traceable to the advanced Energy Policies of the Irish Republican Government.

It is based on a combination of Peat and Ethanol. One for warmth and the other for inspiration. And thank God for them both.

21 posted on 09/06/2006 8:44:11 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (What does it matter if we’re all dead, as long as the French respect us.)
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To: Borges

I remember really digging "Anna Karenina" except the discourses on the Russian steppes and their emotional and philosophical implications.

Unfortunately, in grad school they don't let you skip the boring parts.

Now, though, I can read what the hell I want! Woohoo!

(BTW, I was most promiscuous at the bookstore over the weekend. I now have reading through the end of the year.)


22 posted on 09/06/2006 8:45:31 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: Xenalyte
I find James Joyce unreadable

Even with the James Joyce Interpreted open to the same passage.

23 posted on 09/06/2006 8:48:52 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Incorrigible

We trade out on visits. I've been visiting Ireland since the early 70's, and I've seen the changes in the past 30+ years. Infrastructure definitely has improved radically. I'm looking forward to some of the simple things like joining my brother-in-law at a small shebeen off the road to Castlecomer, visiting the placid peaceful surroundings of Glendaloch, and talking politics with my radical nephew at Bewley's in Dublin.


24 posted on 09/06/2006 8:49:49 AM PDT by TEXASPROUD
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To: Incorrigible
My great-aunt was the matriarch in the family who came to America at 16 to work as a seamstress in Manhattan.

She was from rural Mayo.

She never went back to Ireland and never made a nostalgic comment about it. She died at the age of 92.

Her children invited her again and again to visit Ireland with them and she usually responded by saying: "Why would I want go there? I'm an American!" or "I'll go, but not by plane. I'll drive to meet you when they build the bridge."

Both comments delivered in her heavy brogue, of course.

25 posted on 09/06/2006 8:51:17 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: TEXASPROUD
talking politics with my radical nephew at Bewley's in Dublin

You'll be served by a Polish waitress who wont understand your accent very well!

I convinced my high school age nephew that it is "radical" to support America and President Bush when everyone around you is following the heard!

 

26 posted on 09/06/2006 8:53:10 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Borges
He's more a symbol then a great literary figure.

We'll never agree on that one.

H.L. Mencken had him pegged when he said that his inverted sayings and epigrams eventually become just as mechanical as a preacher spouting platitudes.

(1) One reason why Mencken didn't like Joyce is the pro-Jewish sentiments in Ulysses - Mencken despised Jews, as his personal journals revealed.

(2) Mencken himself repeated inverted platitudes ad infinitum just to be cantankerous and contrary, so perhaps he was also jealous that Joyce both preceded and exceeded him in his metier

. Mencken delighted in mercilessly satirizing the land of his birth and in mocking the serious utterances of those dear to the "booboisie" using portmanteau words of his own devise. He was a second-rate Joycean in the guise of a critic, not a creator.

(3) Mencken thought John Fante was the greatest writer of the 20th century, so his general taste in fiction leaves much to be desired as well.

27 posted on 09/06/2006 9:06:33 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake

I was talking about Wilde!


28 posted on 09/06/2006 9:32:50 AM PDT by Borges
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To: wideawake
I do disagree with you about Mencken though.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1566807/posts

An idealist is one who, on noticing that a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes that it will also make better soup.
29 posted on 09/06/2006 9:36:24 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

LOLOL! Do you think I'm just a little defensive about Joyce?


30 posted on 09/06/2006 9:47:57 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Incorrigible

Statue of Molly Malone--Tart with a Cart


31 posted on 09/06/2006 9:51:44 AM PDT by shortstop ( Win One For the Gipper)
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To: Borges
Mencken had his merits - The American Language is a pretty incredible work in its own right.

But his apparent hatred for the South has always rankled me and I can't get past it.

32 posted on 09/06/2006 9:52:50 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake
Ever read this site?
http://www.brothersjudd.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/reviews.detail/book_id/867/Ulysses.htm

Conservative book reviews. He gets rather strident with Modernist stuff.
33 posted on 09/06/2006 9:54:18 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
Never saw it. Thanks for the link. That Ulysses For Dummies link was hilarious.
34 posted on 09/06/2006 10:05:22 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Incorrigible
I'm convinced Joyce is only meant to be read aloud. His writing is more like impressionist verbal music rather than coherent thought or story. I do blame him for the academic captivity of literature.

Wilde's children's stories are among the best I know. I haven't touched his plays since my unfortunate aesthetic phase in college, I would like to revisit them.

35 posted on 09/06/2006 10:30:21 AM PDT by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: Incorrigible; Colosis; Black Line; Cucullain; SomeguyfromIreland; Youngblood; Fergal; Cian; ...
Wow! Talk about falling in love with Dublin!

I went nearly ten years without visiting Dublin, then I had my head injury - suddenly I had gone 4 times in 6 months! :P

It's been a while since I've flown "Air Fungus" (which is finally being pushed out of the government nest!) so the literary upholstery is a new one on me!

I hope they will privatise Aer Lingus... Bertie Ahern has only short amount of time to U-turn.... again.......

36 posted on 09/06/2006 11:41:39 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|What if I lecture Americans about America?)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Energy Policies of the Irish Republican Government of Ireland. - fixed that! :P

It is based on a combination of Peat and Ethanol. One for warmth and the other for inspiration. And thank God for them both.

LOL!! Good one!

37 posted on 09/06/2006 11:44:49 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|What if I lecture Americans about America?)
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To: Xenalyte
I tried reading Portrait of The Artist, it was boring - so I concur!
38 posted on 09/06/2006 11:47:00 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|What if I lecture Americans about America?)
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To: Incorrigible

see # 31 for my fave.
let's not forget...
1. the shopping ladies ... the hags with the bags
2. (in a fountain) the lady of the river (anna liffey?) ... floozie in the jacuzzi
3. kavanagh also known as the wank by the bank

make sure you have a pint or so at the "brazen head". oldest pub in ireland! A.D. 1189 IIRC.


39 posted on 09/06/2006 12:22:10 PM PDT by wayne_b24 (every day in the Light is a good day...)
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To: wayne_b24

Alas, the Floozie has departed O'Connell Street. I'm not sure if she's shown up elsewhere.


40 posted on 09/06/2006 12:38:09 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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