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The end of the American dream? (Wages stagnant)
BBC.com ^ | 9-5-06 | Steve Schifferes

Posted on 09/05/2006 10:18:21 AM PDT by Hydroshock

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1 posted on 09/05/2006 10:18:22 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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"Meanwhile, a large section of the workforce - the unemployed or those not seeking work - have not benefited from economic growth."
If memory serves, those not seeking work are not a part of the workforce. Those seeking work are.
2 posted on 09/05/2006 10:22:36 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: Hydroshock

hunh. so the brits have called the end of the American dream after 250 or so years? How many times does that make it now?


3 posted on 09/05/2006 10:22:56 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (live until you die. then live some more.)
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To: Hydroshock

When these article mention nothing on taxes (which take almost 50% of the average middle class person's salary) - it makes wonder about their bias...


4 posted on 09/05/2006 10:23:08 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Mase; nopardons; expat_panama

E.P.I. alert.


5 posted on 09/05/2006 10:24:34 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Figures.


6 posted on 09/05/2006 10:26:20 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math and reading?)
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To: Hydroshock
All you need to know about the authors of this report (from Wikipedia):

The Economic Policy Institute or EPI is a leftist United States think tank based in Washington, D.C. and concerned with, as its name implies, the formulation of economic policy. It was established in 1986 by a group of economists including Jeff Faux [1], Barry Bluestone [2], Robert Kuttner [3], Ray Marshall, Robert Reich, and Lester Thurow. Its current president is Lawrence Mishel [4].

EPI states it was founded "to broaden the discussion about economic policy to include the interests of low- and middle-income workers," It states as its mission, "to provide high-quality research and education in order to promote a prosperous, fair, and sustainable economy."

7 posted on 09/05/2006 10:28:34 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: cinives

As we all know, it is not the accuracy of the data, it is the seriousness of the charge.


8 posted on 09/05/2006 10:32:21 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Hydroshock

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=a9pC5dZyxChA&refer=uk

U.K. Unemployment Increases to Highest in Four Years

http://www.4rfv.co.uk/nationalnews.asp?id=54109
UK unemployment rate continues to rise

The unemployment rate also rose to 5.5%, up 0.3% over the quarter and 0.7% over the year, with the number of unemployed people increasing by 92,000 over the quarter and by 243,000 over the year to reach 1.68 million.


9 posted on 09/05/2006 10:32:50 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: cinives

Regardless, I'd still like to see the Fed stop blaming inflation on rising wages and economic growth.


10 posted on 09/05/2006 10:32:57 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

The Fed exists as welfare for bankers. They would love to depress equities relative to the fixed dividend device.
Their inflation fetish is harmful to the nation.


11 posted on 09/05/2006 10:39:49 AM PDT by steve8714 (It's a Murray Head weekend!)
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To: Moonman62

Me too - I'd like to see them blame themselves and their fiat currency schemes.


12 posted on 09/05/2006 10:44:39 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: 2banana

good review of that here:http://www.opinionjournal.com/weekend/hottopic/?id=110008889 from Saturday's WSJ


13 posted on 09/05/2006 10:48:05 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: cinives
I'd rather see them blame government overspending, government inefficiency, government over-regulation, and demand side economic policies.

I have no problem with fiat money provided that it's managed well.

14 posted on 09/05/2006 10:50:21 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

I'd prefer a return to the gold standard, then we wouldn't need management of fiat currency.

Inflation is not a result of the things you mention - overspending, inefficiency, over-regulation and the like. Those are just a function of normal government, and it's why the Founders knew limited government is the only good government.


15 posted on 09/05/2006 10:54:39 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Hydroshock

Household income is cyclical. It is not sound analysis to measure off the top of a peak.

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/incxrace.html

Household income is driven by the business cycle.

Note the peaks normally top out just prior to the following recession, which creates a long trough, previous to a fairly steep increase leading to a new peak. The 1989 peak was not matched again until about 1997.

In terms of household income we bottomed out of this cycle in 2004, and have seen a weak increase in 2005, and the signs have been good that 2006 will see a strong increase, which is on schedule based on previous experience. We can also hope that this series of increases will run for another 5 years or so and produce a new peak.


16 posted on 09/05/2006 10:58:30 AM PDT by buwaya
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"Unemployment has remained stubbornly high despite the economic recovery, with the latest figure at 4.7% compared to 4% at the end of 2000."

??????


17 posted on 09/05/2006 11:07:29 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Hydroshock
Americans have other sources of income now, they have turned their houses into banks.

You now use your house as capital to save, invest and borrow.

It is up to the Fed to keep those housing assets growing through inflation.

Tongue in cheek.


BUMP

18 posted on 09/05/2006 11:11:18 AM PDT by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: tobyhill

Yep, insane thinking in that thing. Leftists have never been good at perspective.


19 posted on 09/05/2006 11:28:26 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: tobyhill

Gotta Love when 4.7% unemployment is "stubbornly high."


20 posted on 09/05/2006 11:31:50 AM PDT by Fan of Fiat
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