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Hope waits - Lawsuit over cocker spaniel underscores Katrina rescue problems.
Austin American Statesman ^ | September 03, 2006 | Eric Dexheimer

Posted on 09/03/2006 12:07:16 PM PDT by kennedy

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1 posted on 09/03/2006 12:07:18 PM PDT by kennedy
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If the New Orleans pet owners, let their pets free during Katrina, the pets would have found their way out to safety while the owners would stand around waiting for the government to come for them, some drowning in the process.


2 posted on 09/03/2006 12:12:11 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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I offered to take in a dog, (instead of a donation) with the understanding that he/she would go back to the owner , if found. The shelter said they would get back to me but never did. If it's her dog, the new owner should give her back IMO. If she is worried about neglect, there are people that can monitor. If the first owner has all this time and money though, I think she should pay for medical care and show some gratitude and understanding of why the foster is concerned.


3 posted on 09/03/2006 12:19:13 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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"10 to 25 percent — have been reunited with their original Louisiana owners. "

What a sad statement about the owners. I wouldn't have left my pet in the first place. But if we had been separated, I'd have been back there as soon as the roads were passable, to get my pet back.


4 posted on 09/03/2006 12:22:16 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: kennedy

If people cared even half as much for HUMAN babies .....

This is INSANITY !


5 posted on 09/03/2006 12:24:52 PM PDT by TimesDomain (When a judge declares himself "MASTER", you become his "SLAVE")
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Court filings say she tried to board a rescue boat with Jazz but was ordered to leave the dog. So she reluctantly left Jazz in an upstairs room with food and water to last "several weeks." National Guardsmen apparently rescued Jazz—"a beloved family pet since (she) was a puppy," court filings say — around Sept. 9.

So a family that has the resources to hire a lawyer to fetch their dog, did not have the resources to leave town before the storm hit?

How do you put out several weeks of food out anyway? The bugs would make the food pretty yucky in a short time.

To settle the case of the rightful owner, why not ask the dog?

6 posted on 09/03/2006 12:25:08 PM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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"Litt, who follows such cases on her Web site, says the dog's health shouldn't be an issue."

What a stupid thing to say. The dog has received the medical care it required and is recovering. If it hadn't, it would be long gone.

There still is no definitive proof that Hope is actually Jazz. If Hope is Jazz, and then IF the owner can come up with the money the rescuers spent returning that dog to good health, then she is responsible enough to get the dog back. Otherwise, she should go buy or adopt another dog.

7 posted on 09/03/2006 12:25:29 PM PDT by GBA
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I'd have left WITH our PETS. There is NO WAY, I'd leave our pets behind. If it would have been us, as soon as we'd heard the warnings we'd be loading up the car with stuff and the PETS and on the road to where a hotel or motel is pet friendly.


8 posted on 09/03/2006 12:25:55 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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If DNA tests prove the dog belongs to the original owner, then the adopting "owner" needs to STFU and hand it over. There's only about 600 years of property law precedent.


9 posted on 09/03/2006 12:31:21 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Pacelle says out-of-state rescuers were shocked, for example, by the high incidence of heartworm and the number of unneutered pets. "I've never seen so many testicles in my life," he admits.

Okay, I laughed.

10 posted on 09/03/2006 12:35:52 PM PDT by RichInOC (I'll settle this. Neither of them gets the dog. Send her to me.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I would call evacuating from a possible category 5 storm heading your way and leaving the petbehind (which is the owner's responsibility) should be called abandonment and also animal abuse. They don't deserve to be pet owners.


11 posted on 09/03/2006 12:38:04 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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I agree, although I love my dog it is...(gasp) just a pet. Im sure some pet owners love both animals and people...but its strange how some think their animal is human or more. Ive noticed this more with single people. Maybe they are just that terribly lonely. Now I may get flamed for this opinion, so be it.
12 posted on 09/03/2006 12:38:49 PM PDT by No Blue States
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I am aware of the concept of abandonment in property law, and believe it would not apply in cases such as these. Nonetheless, you are correct in pointing-out that it goes to the heart of the matter, and would be left for the jury (or judge in a non-jury hearing) to decide.

However, if you are merely speaking of emotional abandonment, then let's simply say that it has no place in this discussion.

13 posted on 09/03/2006 12:42:51 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Call me heartless, but I don't want my tax dollars squandered on pet rescue when there are still human beings to take care of. No going back for pets; if you can carry them with you when are pulled up/out -- OK. Otherwise, tough sh*t. Besides. most of the people here have no business (no money) for pets/pet food et al. Them's the hard facts. And I don't care what race/color you are. This goes across the board. Spare me that racist drivel...SSZ


14 posted on 09/03/2006 12:43:29 PM PDT by szweig
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Whether or not legally the property issue you are talking about, it is still ABUSE. If someone evacuated without their pets, they had fear for their own well being. they are responsible for the well being of their pet.


15 posted on 09/03/2006 12:46:16 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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I do not disagree. But unfortunately, it is not material to whether the original owner still has a legal claim on the animal.


16 posted on 09/03/2006 12:48:57 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: szweig

The people were TOLD to EVACUATE. Pets had no choice in the matter. So we have all this monstrous rescue mission to save people who were too stupid to leave.


17 posted on 09/03/2006 12:49:41 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: 1rudeboy

I just don't see how. Forgive me, but this is just a sore spot with me. The animals were helpless and the arrogant owners left them behind or were too stupid to leave in the first place.


18 posted on 09/03/2006 12:51:46 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: kennedy

Where is Judge Wapner when you really need him?

The problem is too many people who can't seem to distinguish between the value of human life and the value of animal life.

Bringing lawyers and judges into a fight over who owns a dog is like bringing lawyers and judges into a fight over who owns a bicycle. Just shut up and buy a new bicycle. The savings in legal fees will be more than enough to buy a replacement.


19 posted on 09/03/2006 12:58:51 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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Someone has a superiority complex don't they? An animal is a living breathing thing. Nothing like a bicycle.


20 posted on 09/03/2006 1:02:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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