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Conservative Case Against Rudy Giuliani
Human Events ^ | August 30 2006 | John Hawkins

Posted on 08/30/2006 9:09:02 AM PDT by Reagan Man

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To: metalurgist

I read a lot about family. Rudy had two wives. Where does that prove Rudy is connected?


341 posted on 08/30/2006 7:55:22 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, Past, Present and Future, God Bless You and Thank You! Prayers said for our Heroes!)
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To: metalurgist
His father and innuendo and speculation of stories by people who don't like Rudy. The worse you could say in fact about him as a person, is he had two divorces.
342 posted on 08/30/2006 7:57:14 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, Past, Present and Future, God Bless You and Thank You! Prayers said for our Heroes!)
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To: metalurgist

My question goes unanswered. Who will you say can accomplish a win?


343 posted on 08/30/2006 7:58:56 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, Past, Present and Future, God Bless You and Thank You! Prayers said for our Heroes!)
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To: Sabramerican

Yes, He did :)


344 posted on 08/30/2006 7:59:29 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, Past, Present and Future, God Bless You and Thank You! Prayers said for our Heroes!)
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To: GodBlessUSA
So tell me, who do you think can win the next election?

Too early to say who is going to win, but I would like to see Bill Owens, gov. of Colorado throw his hat into the ring.

Haley Barbour, gov. of Mississippi would be a good candidate too.

345 posted on 08/30/2006 8:02:13 PM PDT by metalurgist (Believe in my God or I will kill you! The cry of all religious extremists.)
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To: Sabramerican
In the Rudyophile's mind posting factual information is "despicable".
Although marching thru NYC alongside depraved, licentious sodomites, supporting partial birth abortion, and having a rancorous attitude towards the 2nd amend are, I reckon, admirable.
346 posted on 08/30/2006 8:02:44 PM PDT by jla
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To: Blackirish

"....the social right does not have a varsity player."

It seems that not everyone on the right despises Rudy, despite what some here wish to believe.
RealClearPolitics http://www.realclearpolitics.com/blog/2006/08/mccain_cooked.html and the American Spectator -AmSpecBlog http://www.spectator.org/blogger.asp
have some interesting and adult discussions on new polling data from the Cook Political Report for Rudy.

From RealClearPolitics on their analysis of the poll :

"Giuliani's supporters, it seems from the cross tabs, are more conservative and more pro-Bush than McCain's, who are, unsurprisingly, fairly liberal."

"Rudy might not run. Or there might be other reasons he won't win.
But the idea that he's unacceptable to the conservative base is refuted again and again and again by the polls and the facts on the ground in states like South Carolina."

RealClearPolitics has another link to a recent appearance by Giuliani
http://race42008.com/2006/08/30/rudy-raises-money-for-mark-kennedy-gives-2008-preview/ where he answered questions on things like the border ( Seal It ! )

and judges :
" I don’t understand how you cannot be for strict constructionist judges” (emphasis Rudy’s).


347 posted on 08/30/2006 8:05:55 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Sabramerican
Very favorable that a man with that family background helped to destroy the Mafia in NYC.Do you really believe that there is no more mob in NYC?
348 posted on 08/30/2006 8:09:48 PM PDT by metalurgist (Believe in my God or I will kill you! The cry of all religious extremists.)
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To: Reagan Man

Rudy is absolutely not my man, and I can't think of anything except the war on terror about which we agree.

And, I'd bet that if Rudy had not been mayor of the city that was devastated, that he'd be in Lincoln Chaffee's corner on the WOT.

Rudy Guiliani, for all practical purposes, is a liberal democrat.

I'd have to have a crane lift me from bed and carry me to the voting booth in order for me to pull the lever for Rudy Giuliani.


349 posted on 08/30/2006 8:12:29 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: metalurgist

I didn't read that in the post. I don't think that was the point.


350 posted on 08/30/2006 8:17:50 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, Past, Present and Future, God Bless You and Thank You! Prayers said for our Heroes!)
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To: Sabramerican
Alan Simpson was pro-choice. Nancy Kassebaum was pro choice.

Did either of them support partial birth abortion? Do they today? I think you'll find most politicos who support both abortion on demand and partial birth abortion are liberals.

Alan Simpson was not what I'd call a well rounded conservative. His ACU rating was 78 lifetime, just below the 85 needed to qualify for soild conservative status. Simpson`s last two years in office he was rated, 59 & 65. I always considered Simpson a moderate when he was in the Senate. Nancy Kassenbaum was a liberal Republican. She supported abortion rights and gun control. ACU rating, 56 lifetime, last two years in office, 63 & 48.

Your questions are half baked and have no bearing on the issues of abortion or abortion on demand. Abortion is legal in the US. That doesn't mean Americans are forced to support the procedure under all circumstances. I couldn't care less the sexual orientation of two consenting adults. But I don't support special rights for any American.

>>>>>He was frequently depicted as Hitler in NYC. Must be because he is such a Liberal.

Giuliani pissed off many liberal Democrats and hardcore socialists in his eight years in office. He even ticked off many conservatives too. Conservatives usually don't get into heavy handed namecalling. OTOH, liberals and socialists are fond of trashtalking and ridiculing any political opponent. Come to think of it, so are some FReepers.

351 posted on 08/30/2006 8:20:14 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: jla

He marched in a parade in his city.

His attitude towards guns was identical to every big city mayor.

He has an opinion that abortion is always a matter for the woman and her doctor and not the government as was the law of the land.

His cops gave me two undeserved moving violations.

He is a fallible man and a politician with some views with which I don't agree. I despised him for those tickets and for other things

Yet, there is no politician in America with his record of positive real achievements. No one comes close.

There is no Socially Conservative Republican who can win in 2008 no matter how you fantasize. You fanatics, if successful, will assure a Democrat President. Maybe that's what you secretly desire. Maybe you want to see the Republican party destroyed so you can rebuild it in your image.


352 posted on 08/30/2006 8:23:03 PM PDT by Sabramerican (Bush Doctrine- Old: Fight terrorists. New: Cease fire with terrorists.)
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To: GodBlessUSA
No innuendo. Rudy's father was a thief and a mob enforcer, his cousin was a mobster and a killer. Kerik was a friend and business partner, Rudy's police commissioner.
353 posted on 08/30/2006 8:25:49 PM PDT by metalurgist (Believe in my God or I will kill you! The cry of all religious extremists.)
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To: Reagan Man

Partial birth abortion is a despicable procedure but supporting it doesn't imply you want it done.

It means that you don't want the Government to interfere in a heart breaking private medical decision between a mother and her doctor.


354 posted on 08/30/2006 8:26:27 PM PDT by Sabramerican (Bush Doctrine- Old: Fight terrorists. New: Cease fire with terrorists.)
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To: Sabramerican
"His attitude towards guns was identical to every big city mayor. "

His attitude is blatant betrayal of the Constitution. He deserves no respect for that if anything.

"Yet, there is no politician in America with his record of positive real achievements. No one comes close. "

Then we have sunk too far.

"You fanatics, if successful, will assure a Democrat President. Maybe that's what you secretly desire. Maybe you want to see the Republican party destroyed so you can rebuild it in your image."

For the first, Rudy is effectively a Democrat. For the second, it's the Rockefeller wing that's doing all the destroying. Some would consider your zeal in forcing a liberal down out throats as a bit fanatical.
355 posted on 08/30/2006 8:27:52 PM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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To: Reagan Man
Name me one major politico in America today, who supports abortion on demand and partial birth abortion, and is not widely considered to be a political liberal.

Take a gander at the title of this thread. Just because you repeatedly call Rudy a liberal does not make it so.

356 posted on 08/30/2006 8:29:15 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: xzins
>>>>Rudy Guiliani, for all practical purposes, is a liberal democrat.

I agree. Rudy reminds me of Joe Lieberman with a big mouth. LOL

357 posted on 08/30/2006 8:29:18 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Sabramerican
"It means that you don't want the Government to interfere in a heart breaking private medical decision between a mother and her doctor."

I guess is the doctor murdered said mother that would also be just a "private medical decision"?

There is NO - repeat - NO - medical justification for "partial birth abortion". It is a barbaric procedure that no human of conscience could support or countenance. He countenanced it.
358 posted on 08/30/2006 8:29:48 PM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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To: Sabramerican

We seem to support the same candidate. Fancy that. :)


359 posted on 08/30/2006 8:30:38 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Melas

"Take a gander at the title of this thread. Just because you repeatedly call Rudy a liberal does not make it so."

The fact that Rudy agrees on much of the DNC platform doesn't clue you in?


360 posted on 08/30/2006 8:30:38 PM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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