Posted on 08/30/2006 9:09:02 AM PDT by Reagan Man
Without a Supreme Court that will overturn the Ninth Circus Court, the Second Amendment is DEAD in Kalifornia. It's also DEAD in the nation's capitol.
Room Service will be providing iced tea in hell before I cast a vote for an anti-gunner. Ever.
If the Republican Party can't get that simple message, then they just aren't listening. If Al Gore had been pro-gun, he probably would have taken his home state of Tennessee and might be President today. If Bush was anti-gun, that is what I believe would have happened.
Republicans just need to get over the idea that an anti-gun candidate is compatible with long term success.
Why don't you just join the losertarian party, because you cannot possibly be telling us that Rudy passes the smell test for Reagan-Republicans.
Sorry MikeA, but some of us are not "win-at-any-cost" RINOS. We know that elections have results, and those results impact our daily lives -- from tax and social policy to gay marriage.
Your "attach the messenger" response is typically liberal.
You make a great case for him to be the Mayor of any number of large cesspools that were once great cities.
But for president, no way does he get my vote. No way in hell and no matter who the Dem candidate is.
He might make a suitable head of Homeland Security but only if he puts a muzzle on his weirdo views on social issues. Rudy has some serious soul-searching and inner spiritual prayer work to do before he meets his Maker. It might be better in the long run for him to attend to that. We don't need a pro-abortion president.
Every new poll with Rudy at the top gives these kooks heartburn. :)
"Name a single American politician- who Social Conservatives would readily accept- who has a chance of being elected President in 2008."
Maybe the Social Conservatives don't have that kind of clout any more. We'll have to see.
While I feel he fits New York, I would not want him for POTUS. Democrats will have a field day with him.
Then there is his fear to take on Hillary for the Senate.
Thanks for the oh-so predicable reply of "you're a liberal." That's always the place of last resort for the witless.
I guess the plurality of Christian voters who voted in a poll taken by a Christian organization that showed Guiliani in the lead with Christian CONSERVATIVES, I guess they're all liberals too, right?? Do a keyword search of FR's search. This was posted yesterday.
And grow a brain. Guiliani had to adopt liberal positions to maintain political viability governing New York City. You can't govern New York City like you're the mayor of Boise. Neither would he govern that liberally as president. I'm sure he will move right to govern the nation. Why do such simple concepts of political reality escape people like you?? Oh that's right, you're too busy labelling people in your tired and uninspired way to bother thinking.
P.S. Any reply you post won't be read so save your time. You've already wasted enough of mine with your childishness.
Thanks for the oh-so predicable reply of "you're a liberal." That's always the place of last resort for the witless.
I guess the plurality of Christian voters who voted in a poll taken by a Christian organization that showed Guiliani in the lead with Christian CONSERVATIVES, I guess they're all liberals too, right?? Do a keyword search of FR's search. This was posted yesterday.
And grow a brain. Guiliani had to adopt liberal positions to maintain political viability governing New York City. You can't govern New York City like you're the mayor of Boise. Neither would he govern that liberally as president. I'm sure he will move right to govern the nation. Why do such simple concepts of political reality escape people like you?? Oh that's right, you're too busy labelling people in your tired and uninspired way to bother thinking.
P.S. Any reply you post won't be read so save your time. You've already wasted enough of mine with your childishness.
We heard all that crap when the guvernator wanted conservative votes. LOL!
Rudy is a lefty. A far left lefty. He will govern like one. No thanks.
Keep those eyes swirling counter clockwise.
"No way I vote for Rudy - no way"
"I'll take my little trucks and go home first"
"I'll get my way or I quit"
My advise is be prepared to call your Mommy.
"You are right. But what are the chances that Zell would be nominated?"
None. The point is that the quality of the candidate should be determined by what positions he holds on the issues, not necessarily whether there is an "R" or "D" after their name. It's true most conservatives are Republicans but there are many liberal Republicans and a few conservative Democrats.
I don't know what will happen in '08, but the disrespect some here show toward Rudy is just vile. They are no better than the DUmmies and the Kos kids.
Thanks for that post Veronica - I have been back and forth with the Rudy haters all day.
"If Rudy is our nominee - we won't vote"
CAN YOU IMAGINE ???
Childish.....
Okay, vote for Macaca Allen then who couldn't even win a debate with Barbara Boxer on CNN, another time against Chuck Schumer, yet another against Jane Harman yet another against Rhode Island Senator Jack Reed. In each one he looked like a deer in the headlights and couldn't even mount a reply to the lies they were telling, and trust me, these were no brainers a 5 year old could have hit out of the park. Not Allen! He couldn't even go off script to refute these hacks and their utterly flimsey deceptions. The man's a dunce. He'll be chum in the water for Hillary to gobble up, nothing more. So enjoy President Clinton Part Deux. You'll be the first to bitch about her presidency and then wonder why you didn't support a candidate with more than a room temperature I.Q.
Dear Sabramerican,
"You build a straw man re Giuliani and then you knock him down."
Actually, I think the strawman builder is you.
It's you who believe that large numbers of liberals - WHO ARE MOSTLY AGAINST THE WAR AS FOUGHT - are going to vote for Mr. Giuliani - WHO IS FOR THE WAR AS FOUGHT.
"Name a single American politician- who Social Conservatives would readily accept- who has a chance of being elected President in 2008."
It's a bit early, but Mr. Allen is more than electable, even in spite of his current problems. Unless you think that a politician who occasionally makes an untoward remark is less electable than a politician who cross-dresses. LOL.
Although he has so far indicated that he won't be a candidate, Haley Barbour would be a formidable nominee.
I don't know how the process will treat Sen. Brownback or Sen. Frist, or anyone else who is running, but I've learned the hard way not to think that someone who seems a "dwarf" two years out will not be able to win the presidency.
I remember my mother's laughter (and my own - but I was kind of young, just a teenager) when we heard that a peanut farmer from Georgia was running for president. I remember seeing Mr. Clinton give the nomination speech in 1988 for Mr. Dukakis and laughing that he'd never be president, either (who else remembers that 3-hour stemwinder??).
However, this argument - that there is no one else to run - is hardly much of an endorsement of Mr. Giuliani. "Vote Giuliani - he stinks less than all the others!"
Even if that is the case, Mr. Giuliani doesn't meet my minimum standards to receive my vote. I believe that he will not meet the minimum standards of millions of actual conservative voters.
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First, he's been a liberal his entire life. Second, if your statement was true then it would demonstrate a severe lack of principle on Giuliani's part making him unworthy of a conservative's vote.
You can't govern New York City like you're the mayor of Boise.
And you shouldn't govern New York City like a teenaged girl with a pilfered credit card racking up unprecedented debt.
Neither would he govern that liberally as president.
You're psychic?
I'm sure he will move right to govern the nation.
Oh, well, that's enough for me. MikeA on Free Republic is "sure" that Giuliani will move right to govern the nation. Well, you might be right. Giuliani is so damned liberal he couldn't move any other direction than to the right.
Why do such simple concepts of political reality escape people like you??
Because you're full of $#!+.
Oh that's right, you're too busy labelling people in your tired and uninspired way to bother thinking.
Giuliani has amassed a long record of being a liberal. Heck, he was endorsed by the Liberal Party in his run for Mayor because of his openly liberal position. Labelling Giuliani as anything other than liberal is dishonest. He is, by definition and by his own record and statements and views, a liberal.
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