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Mark Steyn: Call me crazy. I blame terrorists.
Macleans ^ | August 30, 2006 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 08/30/2006 8:32:01 AM PDT by UnklGene

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To: Tallguy
Did you hear about the "SUV" that ran over about a dozen people out in San Francisco?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1692699/posts

I sure did. It kind of reminds me of a joke by a comedian (Seinfeld?) where someone is trying to describe a mugger while being politically correct. I hadn't considered the speculation about the safety of SUV's being a talking point. But I was sure his mental stability would come into play. But, indeed, at least with some sidewalk drivers, there is a question of craziness or drunkenness. I don't recall the Duke incident offhand.

It's like we are fighting the war blindfolded.

And that's the way some like it!

81 posted on 08/30/2006 12:25:56 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: fortunecookie; Tallguy
Silly me, missed the editing.

"http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1692699/posts" should be:

Family: Suspect in SF rampage thought 'devil was coming to him'

82 posted on 08/30/2006 12:28:01 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: UnklGene

Getting Muslims to believe Muslims were behind 9/11 is akin to taking a poll after Jesus was crucified and asking the locals if He really was the Son of God. A minority would say yes. The majority would say no. Thankfully polls do not determine the truth in such cases.


83 posted on 08/30/2006 12:32:32 PM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: AmishDude

Hey, I have a B.S. in Zoology and it wasn't a soft science (then - UCLA Class 1969).

They taught me a great tool which these fools have either never learned or forgotten.

Occam's Razor.

Occam's razor (also spelled Ockham's razor) is a principle attributed to the 14th-century English logician and Franciscan friar William of Ockham (Guilhelmi Ockam and Guillermi de ockam in Latin [1]). Originally a tenet of the reductionist philosophy of nominalism, it is more often taken today as a heuristic maxim that advises economy, parsimony, or simplicity in scientific theories.

Occam's razor states that the explanation of any phenomenon should make as few assumptions as possible, eliminating, or "shaving off", those that make no difference in the observable predictions of the explanatory hypothesis or theory. The principle is often expressed in Latin as the lex parsimoniae (law of succinctness):

entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem,

which translates to:

entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_Razor


84 posted on 08/30/2006 12:51:02 PM PDT by tomswiftjr (Remember Pearl Harbor)
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To: HoosierGal

Who's here? HoosierGal!

Welcome. I imagine you live or work around Goshen.

Your observations are very good. I knew peaceniks at Notre Dame, some influenced by Howard Yoder. They are big on being against war, but not clear on dealing with aggression.


85 posted on 08/30/2006 12:54:31 PM PDT by sine_nomine (American is a great country: 20 million illegals can't be wrong. So build that wall, Mr. Bush.)
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To: Billthedrill
I hate to break it to you, but your dog's one of Them. You've been under his subtle control for years. Think about it - which one of you gets up, heads over to the can opener, and feeds the other one?

I came to that same realization a couple of years ago. I had a day off and spent it running errands for my pets while they rode around in the back seat. My dogs will come up to me and start barking and I'll let them out. They bark again and I let them in and give them a bone. It took them a couple of years, but I'm trained now.

86 posted on 08/30/2006 1:18:38 PM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: HitmanLV; fortunecookie
I honestly don't know what kind of bizarre bloodlust showing the events at every station identification will satisfy.

OK - first it will desensitize and then it will satisfy bloodlust. Which is it?

I think it will serve as a reminder. I have seen recent footage of the second plane smashing into the south tower. I would never confuse that jetliner for a drone.

But there are many who haven't seen what actually happened for 5 years. They need to see it.

And if you broadcast it once an hour, most people will see it 3 times a day or fewer.

Shalom.

87 posted on 08/30/2006 1:21:16 PM PDT by ArGee (The Ring must not be allowed to fall into Hillary's hands!)
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To: scholar; Bullish; linear; yoda swings

Ping


88 posted on 08/30/2006 1:22:41 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: UnklGene; Pokey78
Come on, if you already live in Canada, it's not such a leap to live in an alternative universe.

Bingo! Thanks for the ping.

89 posted on 08/30/2006 1:25:50 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: UnklGene
The thing that still gets me about the plane swap - why? I mean, the conspiracy folks say that they downed the planes in the ocean, killing all aboard - why not just fly the damn things into their targets rather than relying on the drone concept?

Instead you got this complicated switch, flying a plane into the WTC, planting explosives, triggering the explosives, etc, etc, etc, whereas you could have just flown the damn planes into the thing.

Total nutjobs, so far beyond reason, and they're the Netnuts that are driving the Democrat agenda today. You can disagree on a awful lot of issues, but when your backbenchers are raving loons, there's just not much one can accomplish.

Hopefully the raving loons will continue to get attention. Any rational person would be repulsed by them, liberal or conservative.
90 posted on 08/30/2006 1:30:30 PM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: ArGee

Satoisfy the bizaare bloodlust of those advocating a daily screening of the 911 atrocity on every station identification.

Desensitize everyone else who doesn't have that strange fixation.

I dont think what you advocate will make 911 more meaningful to most people. As I said, it will make it less real.


91 posted on 08/30/2006 1:30:36 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: PreciousLiberty
Yeah, the LIVE VIDEO I was watching that morning ...

You thought that was live? That was all produced at ILM/CIA/NSA/FOX HQ months ahead of time, then seamlessly inserted.

Who are you going to believe, thousands of eyewitnesses and your own logic, or me?

92 posted on 08/30/2006 1:32:23 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: HitmanLV
I dont think what you advocate will make 911 more meaningful to most people. As I said, it will make it less real.

Doesn't matter - they've already forgotten. Had we kept playing it (hourly, daily, at the start of each day, etc) they might accept the images as real. However, we didn't, so now they would think it was some kind of Hollywood production.

Shalom.

93 posted on 08/30/2006 1:45:21 PM PDT by ArGee (The Ring must not be allowed to fall into Hillary's hands!)
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To: UnklGene
Anyone who thinks that the U.S. government is capable, audacious, and brilliant enough to pull off something like 9/11 and hide it flawlessly, has clearly never worked for ... the U.S. government.

99.9999 percent of government employees wouldn't go along with it, and the ones that wouldn't would be ratting out the conspirators with the very first shred of real evidence they found. Which they'd find, unless there isn't any. You simply can't hide a conspiracy the way that the theoriests describe it happening.

Unless, of course... you're the all powerful, all knowing President of the United States. Who, oddly enough, is considered a big dummy by most of the theorists.

It's one of two extremes with these guys. Either Bush is the dumbest rube to every bumble his way into the White House, or he's a diabolical mastermind who pulled off the greatest conspiracy in history. Whichever fits their need, depending on where in the narrative they are.

94 posted on 08/30/2006 1:50:42 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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To: ryan71
For some morons, it was not convincing enough that Bin Laden acknowledged on film that he organized 9/11.

Bin Laden? You do realize that Bin Laden is really just President Bush wearing a mask, right? He and Dr. Ayman Zawa-Cheney are the ones who have been making all of those jihadist videos.

Karl Rove was also playing an al-Qa'ida mastermind in his spare time, but they arranged for his alter ego, Khalid Sheikh Muhammed, to be "arrested in Pakistan" so he could get back to the one job he truly loves.

Reprogramming Diebold machines.

I mean, seriously, how have you guys not figured this out yet? Have you ever seen Bush and Bin Laden in the same room? I feel like the guy watching Superman who cringes when no one notices Clark Kent "suddenly disappear" right before Superman shows up.

"Gee, President Bush, where'd ya go? You missed bin Laden! He was right here!"

Think about it! He can't catch bin Laden because he is bin Laden.

Idiots!

95 posted on 08/30/2006 2:01:33 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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To: UnklGene
Do think the fact that credible news outlets such as Fox News (i.e.O'Reilly for one program. . .) decide to actually debate the 'rumor'; by turn give 'sustenance' to this garbage and help perpetuate it.

A rediculous state of 'news' and/or affairs. . .to give this sickness a forum. . .

96 posted on 08/30/2006 2:43:42 PM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .)
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To: ArGee

I don't think your hourly broadcast would have brought you the desired outcome.


97 posted on 08/30/2006 3:08:36 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: tomswiftjr
"They taught me a great tool which these fools have either never learned or forgotten: Occam's Razor."

Conspiricists prefer Ockham's Minoxydil: the more complicated a scenario is, the more likely it happened.
98 posted on 08/30/2006 3:15:25 PM PDT by decal (The Key To Flexibility is Indecision)
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To: monday
Why does the government insist that when individual Muslims run civilians down with their SUV's or gun them down at Jewish community centers or EL AL ticket counters, that it isn't Islamic terrorism?

Is it really the *gov't* that insists this, or the MSM? I don't hear gov't comments on these episodes (and there are more all the time), but I notice that the MSM doesn't give us the names of the perps - otherwise we'd notice that they are Muslim.

We're treating these all as individual crimes here, but if this same stuff was happening in Iraq at the same rate, we'd be calling it "civil war".

And who's to know if the gov't is monitoring these people? Maybe they are, but if the NYT finds out, they'd have to stop.

99 posted on 08/30/2006 4:30:31 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: HoosierGal
After all, no one wanted to believe that Hitler had bad intentions back in 1938, either.

That's the point that Rumsfeld has been making lately. He's getting raked over the coals by the Dems and the MSM for doing it, but I applaud him (and Bush) for doing it.
I think this is definitely the important issue.

100 posted on 08/30/2006 4:33:38 PM PDT by speekinout
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